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bjwithbraces
United States549 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
I think its funny when people were talking mad crap on select in that mini-podcast before the tournament and they proceed to all get beat by him. Just my 2 cents. I think people really underestimated his ability to macro and just focused on his multi-tasking and drop play. The games against Idra were the only ones I saw where he legitimately got out-macrod. | ||
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Obscure
United States272 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:00 Xax wrote: What makes it much more watchable as a sport are the emotions and the stuff happening alongside the actual matches in my opinion. It's just so much more interesting if I can see who is playing, what he looks like, what he says after the match, before the match. I almost entirely stopped watching online tournaments for that exact reason, watching the GSL or this MLG was so much better than for example IEM NYC which felt like an online cast. How great is it to watch the GSL and having somebody do a signature winning pose after winning an intense game in a team uniform? Imagine the day9 daily with just a starcraft 2 screen and day 9 talking about it, it just wouldn't be the same. Agreed. This is also why the Korean BW scene has been so entertaining and enduring all these years, even though I don't know a speck of Korean. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Flavalanche
United States164 Posts
On October 17 2010 09:50 awesomoecalypse wrote: Honestly, every e-sport except for BW and SC2 kinda suck as spectator sports. FPS have too many player doing different things, so it becomes impossible for observers to follow in a way that provides meaningful context--you're just watching a highlight reel of killshots and a bunch of numbers in one corner of the screen. WoW arena also suffers from the "too many players" issue Quake would like a word with you. | ||
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gozima
Canada602 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6178 Posts
I was hoping for Select to win it all but gj to Idra, he deserved it. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:18 gozima wrote: The losers bracket system really needs to go. It's like telling a hundred meter spinter that he needs to win a marathon before he can go and compete against Usain Bolt, on the same day no less. Would you rather have Select lose to Nony, then be out of the tournament completely instead of coming back to get 2nd? | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:23 DystopiaX wrote: Would you rather have Select lose to Nony, then be out of the tournament completely instead of coming back to get 2nd? No, there are alternative tournament formats, which are likely better. eg standard sports tourney format Start with group stage, eg groups of 4. Top 1-2 of each group advance to elimination stage, etc.. | ||
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Goggalor
United States310 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:18 gozima wrote: No way, this way the gamers actually get their moneys worth for showing up. The losers bracket system really needs to go. It's like telling a hundred meter spinter that he needs to win a marathon before he can go and compete against Usain Bolt, on the same day no less. IMO, they showed too much of the loser's bracket. Especially those 3 games with machine. Keep the losers bracket, but only show the winner's bracket matches until the winner's finals, then start casting out of the losers bracket. | ||
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terramagra
United States52 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:29 Goggalor wrote: No way, this way the gamers actually get their moneys worth for showing up. IMO, they showed too much of the loser's bracket. Especially those 3 games with machine. Keep the losers bracket, but only show the winner's bracket matches until the winner's finals, then start casting out of the losers bracket. .... your giving up so many matches like this.. it's not like they didn't cast a winner's round, they just also casted the loser's rounds... There were a lot of great games in the loser's bracket(more so than the winner's bracket imo) | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:28 thesighter wrote: No, there are alternative tournament formats, which are likely better. eg standard sports tourney format Start with group stage, eg groups of 4. Top 1-2 of each group advance to elimination stage, etc.. In 2 days? you'd probably end up missing a lot of those matches. Top 1, you only get to see Ro16, top 2 Ro32, but with MLG you saw some Ro64 matches and several Ro32/16, as well as a lot of the Losers Bracket matches. If they did it that style, with their broadcast format you'd only see 1-2 matches per round, and I'd rather see a lot more. | ||
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epik151
312 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:01 Kaal wrote: I think its funny when people were talking mad crap on select in that mini-podcast before the tournament and they proceed to all get beat by him. Just my 2 cents. haha i remember that. yeah incontrol pretty much humble pie in face. yeah.. select... not flashy and not a contender... does gimmicky things and when it clicks, it clicks. The gimmicky things clicked 9 best-of-3's in a row(against opponents like qxc, kiwikaki, and huk) and a game to match 7 with nony and would've taken 1st if not for idra. | ||
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Nakmal
United States24 Posts
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Devlin
Sweden91 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:34 zizou21 wrote: Idra was on another level at this tournament I don't know, there were some REALLY hairy situations for Idra that could've gone either way. Like getting mutas out in literally the last second against incoming dropships and stuff like that. But he was definitely better overall, evidently. | ||
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Vxed
Norway239 Posts
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Kazang
578 Posts
On October 17 2010 10:28 thesighter wrote: No, there are alternative tournament formats, which are likely better. eg standard sports tourney format Start with group stage, eg groups of 4. Top 1-2 of each group advance to elimination stage, etc.. Double elimination is the best format for players, with groups and playoffs you still have groups of death or the 2 best players playing off in the ro16 and eliminating each other. Round robin is pretty much impossible in a LAN tournament like MLG. Double elimination gives each player the best possible chance at succeeding within a reasonable time frame. The problem wasn't the format, it was the fact it was rushed. Too many games on one day is too many games, regardless of the tournament format. The finals and semi-finals of the upper and lower bracket should have at the very least been played on a separate day to the rest of the games. | ||
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