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On October 17 2010 03:21 silentsaint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 03:17 TurpinOS wrote:On October 17 2010 03:16 Alaron wrote:On October 17 2010 03:15 kojinshugi wrote:On October 17 2010 03:15 Alaron wrote: CHEESE FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Forge FE is cheese! Wait what. Cannoning rushing again isnt cheese? K keep telling yourself that. He only put up a cannon at his nat after his cheese failed. Try harder. hes denying the expo while expanding, how is that cheese...goddamn people Cheese is am early tactic that puts you way behind if it fails.. Well, he looks like he is behind by a lot (around 40 food) he was behind because he let zerglings in his base forge expand + delaying expo with cannons is not a cheese
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great games. Kiwi has such a fun style, it's so entertaining even if he lost, he is the winner
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On October 17 2010 03:22 Bear4188 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 03:20 Alaron wrote:On October 17 2010 03:19 Bear4188 wrote: Cannons in the natural aren't cheese.
Cannons in the main are cheese. Especially when zerg needs 2 bases to combat any other races 1 base? That has absolutely nothing to do with cheese. It's a standard opening with a transition into normal play. Denying an expo isn't cheese because you dislike it, that's not how the game works.
Looks like he was about 40 food behind.
Definitely cheese.
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On October 17 2010 03:21 Odoakar wrote: So, how exactly can a protoss play kill roaches now?
Maybe not spend 600 minerals early game on a failed cannon rush?
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idra shutting down that cheesey play. No one can beat Idra in a macro game.
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LMAO Oh the technical issues 
These Knives Man
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On October 17 2010 03:22 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 03:18 kojinshugi wrote:On October 17 2010 03:16 Alaron wrote:On October 17 2010 03:15 kojinshugi wrote:On October 17 2010 03:15 Alaron wrote: CHEESE FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Forge FE is cheese! Wait what. Cannoning rushing again isnt cheese? K keep telling yourself that. He only put up a cannon at his nat after his cheese failed. Try harder. My bad, a perfectly visible worker building a cannon in front of the other player to stop an expansion going down is cheese. My last comment regarding cheese: Yes it is. Why? Cause it's a failed cheese which results in losing when your opponent plays well.
Kiwi lost because he did a forge FE which no longer works in 1.1.2 with the roach buff.
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Idra only won game 2 cause of the range buff (not counting how well he played considering the harassment).
Anyway
1 stalker = 125/50. 10+4 damage, 160hp.
2 roaches = 150/50. 16 damage x2. 145 hp x2.
Zerg can just spam roaches and lings and destroy protoss until they get robots to deal the splash + inflated damage.
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On October 17 2010 03:21 mrg wrote: Idra wins with 3 base roach cheese .... lol you have no idea what cheese is, do you?
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I think there was too many viewers in the stream so i didn't so any games 
so i followed the thread comments :D
GO IDRA!!
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wow mic fail, but they caught it pretty fast
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On October 17 2010 03:22 DeLogan wrote:![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/GK0E7.jpg)
Stop reposting that every 5 pages please (it's like the 4th time), we know you did it.
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Huk vs. Idra final. Head asplode.
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Ok let's play this game again - Is IdrA a midget or JP a giant?
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haha, idra with some huge nerd-smile when getting interviewed now.
his confidence must have doubled with that win against kiwi.
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On October 17 2010 03:23 AssuredVacancy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 03:21 Odoakar wrote: So, how exactly can a protoss play kill roaches now? Maybe not spend 600 minerals early game on a failed cannon rush? I also here using force fields is a useful skill toi have.
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Looks like the HuK stops here...
User was warned for this pun
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