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Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 08 2010 21:20 GMT
#401
On September 09 2010 05:13 Grimjim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 05:12 teamsolid wrote:
On September 09 2010 05:11 Coulthard wrote:
bah play straight up dimaga wtf

You can't play straight up after your ramp gets cannoned...


Yes you can. You creep tumor, Spine Crawler it down while droning, and expand when you take it down.


That takes too long.
You can't see what the P is doing so you'll most likely lose to 4 gate all-in straight after.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
September 08 2010 21:23 GMT
#402
i posted the reps right now on www.root-gaming.com
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
Johnny_Vegas
Profile Joined December 2007
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 21:25:16
September 08 2010 21:24 GMT
#403
On September 09 2010 06:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 06:10 BBMorti wrote:
Disappointing to see the caster induce a huge flame war and I don't know if it was my adblock+ that blocked commercials or what it was but it seemed like the streamer was tapping in and out of the game many times. Also the casters really seemed to lack game knowledge imo
I realise they were trying to be funny but holy crap the stream chat showed thats not obvious for all...


Yeah lzgamer and I are trying to play more sc2 so we can figure this darn game out and know more for the cast.. our apologies. Also flame war? We legitimately feel that europe as a whole is completely humorless and inferior to AMERIKA.


Actually I thought you guys were pretty funny, and made some sensible guesses of what was going to happen, its fun when the casters are not always right. Usually the people that knock casters have never tried doing it themselves, harder than it looks...
battlereports.com (co-founder/developer), Nohunters Discussion Forum operator
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
September 08 2010 21:24 GMT
#404
On September 09 2010 06:01 taketobreak wrote:
please people, stalkers are better than hydras

stalkers come out with 6range and 160 health, 80 of it regens

hydras come out with 5range and 80health

stalkers spend 150/150 for a kick ass ability

hydras spend 150/150 to have 6 range


hydras ONLY beat stalkers when they have way better position which blink should stop from ever happening. when the position is equal stalkers beat hydras. blink makes stalkers DECIMATE hydras


Wtf are you smoking? Hydras > Stalkers. Stalkers never 'decimate' Hydras by any means either.


On September 09 2010 05:59 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 05:57 eNtitY~ wrote:
Who won? I missed game 7 :/

+ Show Spoiler +
kiwikaki won, thanks to awesome micro and bad postioning in the last battle by dimaga


Thanks. But I was hoping for the other ;(
http://www.starcraftdream.com
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
September 08 2010 21:27 GMT
#405
Damn that was a great series, note to self: when incontrol tells me not to go mass stalker vs hydra I will simply reply "What would kiwikaki do".
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
September 08 2010 21:30 GMT
#406
On September 09 2010 06:23 KiWiKaKi wrote:
i posted the reps right now on www.root-gaming.com


Thanks a lot and congratultions on the money
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 08 2010 21:33 GMT
#407
On September 09 2010 06:27 AdamFox wrote:
Damn that was a great series, note to self: when incontrol tells me not to go mass stalker vs hydra I will simply reply "What would kiwikaki do".


Until you can micro like kiwi AND get position like kiwi I would STILL say don't go stalkers vs hydra
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
September 08 2010 21:33 GMT
#408
This was the most fun i ever had watching sc2 ! Great job everyone.

The only small problem was indeed 2-3x 5 sec tab out during game + huge big ass commercials between games ^^, but i could live with it.
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
September 08 2010 21:34 GMT
#409
i agree. I was telling myself why kiwi wasnt going for Colossi or HT but i underestimated once again his micro skills.
@ggmonx
cornwell1961
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan56 Posts
September 08 2010 21:37 GMT
#410
some great games
love kiwi's dts
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
September 08 2010 21:40 GMT
#411
On September 09 2010 06:20 Fantistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 05:13 Grimjim wrote:
On September 09 2010 05:12 teamsolid wrote:
On September 09 2010 05:11 Coulthard wrote:
bah play straight up dimaga wtf

You can't play straight up after your ramp gets cannoned...


Yes you can. You creep tumor, Spine Crawler it down while droning, and expand when you take it down.


That takes too long.
You can't see what the P is doing so you'll most likely lose to 4 gate all-in straight after.


In IEM against Tarson Idra built like 5 blings and broke a depot/bunker contain on his ramp. I know he's played a few games against Tester where he does the exact same thing Kiwikaki did and he broke it and transitioned into a standard macro game. Those were awhile ago though so I don't really remember when that was.
leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
September 08 2010 21:41 GMT
#412
On September 09 2010 06:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 06:10 BBMorti wrote:
Disappointing to see the caster induce a huge flame war and I don't know if it was my adblock+ that blocked commercials or what it was but it seemed like the streamer was tapping in and out of the game many times. Also the casters really seemed to lack game knowledge imo
I realise they were trying to be funny but holy crap the stream chat showed thats not obvious for all...


Yeah lzgamer and I are trying to play more sc2 so we can figure this darn game out and know more for the cast.. our apologies. Also flame war? We legitimately feel that europe as a whole is completely humorless and inferior to AMERIKA.

rofl.

Good job dude, you were much smoother with the camera today. (still a tad wonky in spots, but obviously excusable considering your efforts and contributions.)

keep it coming!

Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
September 08 2010 21:41 GMT
#413
On September 09 2010 06:23 KiWiKaKi wrote:
i posted the reps right now on www.root-gaming.com


Thanks for posting reps, much appreciated.
ROOTslush
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada170 Posts
September 08 2010 21:43 GMT
#414
On September 09 2010 05:52 SoL[9] wrote:
That was a surprise...

yea me too i tought kiwi would have won like 4-1 or something.
Jukebox Joe
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom358 Posts
September 08 2010 21:44 GMT
#415
Sounds like a great series. Can't wait for the VODs
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
September 08 2010 21:48 GMT
#416
On September 09 2010 06:43 SLush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 05:52 SoL[9] wrote:
That was a surprise...

yea me too i tought kiwi would have won like 4-1 or something.


/Agree, he seemed a bit scared / overpassive after the 6 pool.

btw, not sure if you're planning to do anything with the replays, but they are posted @ www.root-gaming.com if anyone is interested. (if you ARE planning to do something with them let me know and i'll remove them or something)
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 08 2010 21:51 GMT
#417
Kiwikaki must be a god in bed. I hope one day to experience his awesomeness up close and dirty.
AtlasJQ
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada138 Posts
September 08 2010 22:03 GMT
#418
Bravo to iNcontrol and Lz for an amazing job of casting and a really entertaining showmatch! I look forward to more of these.
An old schooler from Katans Lair and Mavens Haven - | - Fav SC accomplishment: Beating SSamjang in the first i2e2. Yes, that SSamjang. I am old :(
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:08:55
September 08 2010 22:03 GMT
#419
I've been in several situations where 6 Hydralisks have decimated by army of 10-12 Stalkers.

Kiwikaki showed incredible micro, and the Force Fields forced Dimaga to continue with the attack despite having:

a) worse arc positioning
b) hydras in front (no tanking damage from Roaches)
c) no speedlings to trap forces

Dimaga showed amazing Zerg play though: he's such an inspirational player considering he can go from 1 base Zerg plays with Nydus/Burrow/Roach plays into standard long macro games. He really is the best Zerg in Europe in my view- such a beast.

Congrats to Kiwikaki nonetheless though.

And about the European jokes, you should respect Britain because we've given the world the best music, best comedy, best television and best radio stations.

As a Protoss player you can learn a lot from the fact Kiwi managed to stay on Gateway units (inc. Observer for Creep tumour snipes) and came out ahead in most fights due to his superior position (Stalker > Hydra movement off creep: favours Protoss for the attacking position) and his micro with both Force Field and Blink. Force Field was used by Kiwi not to "trap" units, but moreso to decrease the attacking position Dimaga attacked from: instead of 8 Hydras, there were 2 lines of 4 with only 1 line being able to fire- great displays of micro from both players though.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:10:29
September 08 2010 22:09 GMT
#420
VODs?

Sorry, I don't want to look through the thread or it'll get spoiled and all I see in OP is replays.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
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