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On September 09 2010 05:13 Grimjim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 05:12 teamsolid wrote:On September 09 2010 05:11 Coulthard wrote: bah play straight up dimaga wtf You can't play straight up after your ramp gets cannoned... Yes you can. You creep tumor, Spine Crawler it down while droning, and expand when you take it down.
That takes too long. You can't see what the P is doing so you'll most likely lose to 4 gate all-in straight after.
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On September 09 2010 06:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 06:10 BBMorti wrote: Disappointing to see the caster induce a huge flame war and I don't know if it was my adblock+ that blocked commercials or what it was but it seemed like the streamer was tapping in and out of the game many times. Also the casters really seemed to lack game knowledge imo I realise they were trying to be funny but holy crap the stream chat showed thats not obvious for all... Yeah lzgamer and I are trying to play more sc2 so we can figure this darn game out and know more for the cast.. our apologies. Also flame war? We legitimately feel that europe as a whole is completely humorless and inferior to AMERIKA.
Actually I thought you guys were pretty funny, and made some sensible guesses of what was going to happen, its fun when the casters are not always right. Usually the people that knock casters have never tried doing it themselves, harder than it looks...
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On September 09 2010 06:01 taketobreak wrote: please people, stalkers are better than hydras
stalkers come out with 6range and 160 health, 80 of it regens
hydras come out with 5range and 80health
stalkers spend 150/150 for a kick ass ability
hydras spend 150/150 to have 6 range
hydras ONLY beat stalkers when they have way better position which blink should stop from ever happening. when the position is equal stalkers beat hydras. blink makes stalkers DECIMATE hydras
Wtf are you smoking? Hydras > Stalkers. Stalkers never 'decimate' Hydras by any means either.
On September 09 2010 05:59 Stealthpenguin wrote:+ Show Spoiler +kiwikaki won, thanks to awesome micro and bad postioning in the last battle by dimaga
Thanks. But I was hoping for the other ;(
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Damn that was a great series, note to self: when incontrol tells me not to go mass stalker vs hydra I will simply reply "What would kiwikaki do".
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Thanks a lot and congratultions on the money
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On September 09 2010 06:27 AdamFox wrote: Damn that was a great series, note to self: when incontrol tells me not to go mass stalker vs hydra I will simply reply "What would kiwikaki do".
Until you can micro like kiwi AND get position like kiwi I would STILL say don't go stalkers vs hydra
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This was the most fun i ever had watching sc2 ! Great job everyone.
The only small problem was indeed 2-3x 5 sec tab out during game + huge big ass commercials between games ^^, but i could live with it.
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i agree. I was telling myself why kiwi wasnt going for Colossi or HT but i underestimated once again his micro skills.
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some great games love kiwi's dts
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On September 09 2010 06:20 Fantistic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 05:13 Grimjim wrote:On September 09 2010 05:12 teamsolid wrote:On September 09 2010 05:11 Coulthard wrote: bah play straight up dimaga wtf You can't play straight up after your ramp gets cannoned... Yes you can. You creep tumor, Spine Crawler it down while droning, and expand when you take it down. That takes too long. You can't see what the P is doing so you'll most likely lose to 4 gate all-in straight after.
In IEM against Tarson Idra built like 5 blings and broke a depot/bunker contain on his ramp. I know he's played a few games against Tester where he does the exact same thing Kiwikaki did and he broke it and transitioned into a standard macro game. Those were awhile ago though so I don't really remember when that was.
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On September 09 2010 06:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 06:10 BBMorti wrote: Disappointing to see the caster induce a huge flame war and I don't know if it was my adblock+ that blocked commercials or what it was but it seemed like the streamer was tapping in and out of the game many times. Also the casters really seemed to lack game knowledge imo I realise they were trying to be funny but holy crap the stream chat showed thats not obvious for all... Yeah lzgamer and I are trying to play more sc2 so we can figure this darn game out and know more for the cast.. our apologies. Also flame war? We legitimately feel that europe as a whole is completely humorless and inferior to AMERIKA. rofl.
Good job dude, you were much smoother with the camera today. (still a tad wonky in spots, but obviously excusable considering your efforts and contributions.)
keep it coming!
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Thanks for posting reps, much appreciated.
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On September 09 2010 05:52 SoL[9] wrote: That was a surprise... yea me too i tought kiwi would have won like 4-1 or something.
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Sounds like a great series. Can't wait for the VODs
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On September 09 2010 06:43 SLush wrote:yea me too i tought kiwi would have won like 4-1 or something.
/Agree, he seemed a bit scared / overpassive after the 6 pool.
btw, not sure if you're planning to do anything with the replays, but they are posted @ www.root-gaming.com if anyone is interested. (if you ARE planning to do something with them let me know and i'll remove them or something)
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Kiwikaki must be a god in bed. I hope one day to experience his awesomeness up close and dirty.
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Bravo to iNcontrol and Lz for an amazing job of casting and a really entertaining showmatch! I look forward to more of these.
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I've been in several situations where 6 Hydralisks have decimated by army of 10-12 Stalkers.
Kiwikaki showed incredible micro, and the Force Fields forced Dimaga to continue with the attack despite having:
a) worse arc positioning b) hydras in front (no tanking damage from Roaches) c) no speedlings to trap forces
Dimaga showed amazing Zerg play though: he's such an inspirational player considering he can go from 1 base Zerg plays with Nydus/Burrow/Roach plays into standard long macro games. He really is the best Zerg in Europe in my view- such a beast.
Congrats to Kiwikaki nonetheless though.
And about the European jokes, you should respect Britain because we've given the world the best music, best comedy, best television and best radio stations.
As a Protoss player you can learn a lot from the fact Kiwi managed to stay on Gateway units (inc. Observer for Creep tumour snipes) and came out ahead in most fights due to his superior position (Stalker > Hydra movement off creep: favours Protoss for the attacking position) and his micro with both Force Field and Blink. Force Field was used by Kiwi not to "trap" units, but moreso to decrease the attacking position Dimaga attacked from: instead of 8 Hydras, there were 2 lines of 4 with only 1 line being able to fire- great displays of micro from both players though.
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VODs?
Sorry, I don't want to look through the thread or it'll get spoiled and all I see in OP is replays.
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