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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:41 Alou wrote: Drewbie actually wins tournaments, so I doubt people will forget about him anytime soon. Drewbie is gonna be called newbie in a few months. | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:41 Shikyo wrote: Oh no, Zerglings will be taking less splash damage. What a huge nerf.... Come on it won't really change anything. It won't change anything? The splash damage that tanks get? The non cliff easy camping? The put 2 tanks behind army and let it all disappear? Wouldn't all of these easy laid back defense style change? | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:35 drewbie.root wrote: lol, when i qualified for the IEM group stage, i beat artosis in the tournament, and he flaaaaaamed me then too, and also did the exact same build ( muta ling baneling ). I even beat him in the beta when zerg was the best race T_T. Also he was harassing me non-stop to play 1 hour before the match was supposed to start ( I would have played early but admins wouldn't let us ). So of course I did get a little bit tired of his shit. My comment was not BM, I was giving him some constructive criticism, every other zerg in the world makes a hive when they have 3+ bases, unlike artosis who just continued to mass mutas and suicides them vs +3 rines and +2 thors in both games. other than artosis' mistakes do you think terran is stronger? | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Hope Kiwi and Huk both make it out. go toss!  | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:44 Kage wrote: It won't change anything? The splash damage that tanks get? The non cliff easy camping? The put 2 tanks behind army and let it all disappear? Wouldn't all of these easy laid back defense style change? As I said, the only change is splash damage to Zerglings. They still die to one hit and most T's get weapon upgrades for tanks anyway. It won't change essentially anything unless Hydras become viable, but I really, really don't see that happening. Why couldn't you do those exact same things vs Zerg after the patch? The only thing that changes is the splash damage tanks deal to Zerglings. Everything else is the same. . | ||
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Zakka
Netherlands762 Posts
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NonFactor
Sweden698 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:41 GenoZStriker wrote: Errr you don't remember when mass roach > all? Um no. Mass roach was indeed strong in >LATE GAME< the problem here is that Zerg doesen't make it to >LATE GAME< most of their games, due to their extremely weak early game and early-mid game. (Numerous factors play to this.) Zerg was never ''strong'', T and P just learned how to abuse their strenghts better against Zerg, that's all. Dimaga may have made Zerg look strong, but he always seemed one step ahead of everyone else and is an extremely skilled player. (Like IEM EU showed.) Anyways, yeah, lack of Zergs is getting sad. =[] But what can you do? Anyways, tuned in most of the games, been enjoying most of the games, Machine played exceptionally well. | ||
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dave22222
20 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:47 NonFactor wrote: Um no. Mass roach was indeed strong in >LATE GAME< the problem here is that Zerg doesen't make it to >LATE GAME< most of their games, due to their extremely weak early game and early-mid game. (Numerous factors play to this.) Zerg was never ''strong'', T and P just learned how to abuse their strenghts better against Zerg, that's all. Dimaga may have made Zerg look strong, but he always seemed one step ahead of everyone else and is an extremely skilled player. (Like IEM EU showed.) Anyways, yeah, lack of Zergs is getting sad. =[] But what can you do? Anyways, tuned in most of the games, been enjoying most of the games, Machine played exceptionally well. Yep, changing the Roach supply to 1 was a very critical mistake. Back then, Zerg was the best race in the endgame while sucking at all points before(how it should be). Now Zerg is merely able to compete in the lategame after being completely useless for the first 10-15 minutes. It really was a bad change. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:47 dave22222 wrote: Artosis is terrible and should complain about his own lack of skill. What would you have done differently? What is your preferred strat against Terran? How do you cover 4 marauder drops simultaneously? Please enlighten us. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:34 Zelniq wrote: its np just wait for hots and all is good I don't know if I can keep my sanity that long. Zelniq save us from this terrible time. | ||
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
Learn some manners, artosis. Drewbie is 100% correct in talking back. He gets thrashed on by IdrA and Artosis all the time. I didn't see the games, but judging from reading this thread, Artosis played like shit. P.S. I am a zerg player | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:50 QueueQueue wrote: Clearly guys, it is toss that is imba. Artosis said that most Koreans feel P has an advantage in PvT. I have no idea what your point is. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:49 Shikyo wrote: Yep, changing the Roach supply to 1 was a very critical mistake. Back then, Zerg was the best race in the endgame while sucking at all points before(how it should be). Now Zerg is merely able to compete in the lategame after being completely useless for the first 10-15 minutes. It really was a bad change. Back then all Zerg players did all game long was mass roaches. It was a very one-dimensional match-up, so they changed it. I still remember the massive bitching that ensued when it happened. Trust me, there was a period in which the Zerg and Terran positions were reversed balance-wise, and it was Zerg players who had to deal with the accusation that they were playing the ezmode race that can win without doing anything other than a-move. | ||
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gozima
Canada602 Posts
He'll make a ton more money playing in the monthly GSL tournaments than anything he'd make playing in the IEM. | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:35 drewbie.root wrote: lol, when i qualified for the IEM group stage, i beat artosis in the tournament, and he flaaaaaamed me then too, and also did the exact same build ( muta ling baneling ). I even beat him in the beta when zerg was the best race T_T. Also he was harassing me non-stop to play 1 hour before the match was supposed to start ( I would have played early but admins wouldn't let us ). So of course I did get a little bit tired of his shit. My comment was not BM, I was giving him some constructive criticism, every other zerg in the world makes a hive when they have 3+ bases, unlike artosis who just continued to mass mutas and suicides them vs +3 rines and +2 thors in both games. Nothing would have been different if he had teched. You where really marauder heavy so ultras wouldnt have made a difference. As for other options, only a few good fungal growths would been a good option, but nothing that zerg has can save those hatch snipes you where doing. And thats what made you win, not your bad army controll. | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:49 Shikyo wrote: Yep, changing the Roach supply to 1 was a very critical mistake. Back then, Zerg was the best race in the endgame while sucking at all points before(how it should be). Now Zerg is merely able to compete in the lategame after being completely useless for the first 10-15 minutes. It really was a bad change. i think its ridiculous how when zerg was the strongest race and terrans/protoss refused to do anything creative(apart from a few good seeds like Jinro with his reaper into ghost opening which as effective as it was for some reason everyone else refused to implement) and all that happened was a million patches that nerfed zerg over the course of a few months. Now zerg is told to "use nydus" for half a year and no end to this insanity is in sight. | ||
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