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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
September 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#301
Last shadow drops in every single tournament/game i've seen him play.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#302
On September 05 2010 09:05 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 09:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 05 2010 08:49 Shikyo wrote:
On September 05 2010 08:47 NonFactor wrote:
On September 05 2010 08:41 GenoZStriker wrote:
On September 05 2010 08:39 Lucius2 wrote:
when exactly was zerg the best race in the beta!?

Errr you don't remember when mass roach > all?


Um no. Mass roach was indeed strong in >LATE GAME< the problem here is that Zerg doesen't make it to >LATE GAME< most of their games, due to their extremely weak early game and early-mid game. (Numerous factors play to this.)

Zerg was never ''strong'', T and P just learned how to abuse their strenghts better against Zerg, that's all. Dimaga may have made Zerg look strong, but he always seemed one step ahead of everyone else and is an extremely skilled player. (Like IEM EU showed.)

Anyways, yeah, lack of Zergs is getting sad. =[] But what can you do?

Anyways, tuned in most of the games, been enjoying most of the games, Machine played exceptionally well.

Yep, changing the Roach supply to 1 was a very critical mistake. Back then, Zerg was the best race in the endgame while sucking at all points before(how it should be). Now Zerg is merely able to compete in the lategame after being completely useless for the first 10-15 minutes. It really was a bad change.

i think its ridiculous how when zerg was the strongest race and terrans/protoss refused to do anything creative(apart from a few good seeds like Jinro with his reaper into ghost opening which as effective as it was for some reason everyone else refused to implement) and all that happened was a million patches that nerfed zerg over the course of a few months. Now zerg is told to "use nydus" for half a year and no end to this insanity is in sight.


I agree its funny how terran/protoss were complaining and all that and like you said zerg to nerfed hardcore and now its opposite and terran/protoss's are telling zergs to be more creative when they couldn't do it themselves? Hypocrisy at its best

Although I feel Artosis did play pretty bad against drewbie he never really transitioned or anything and losing all those mutas in that last game was bad let alone letting drewbie kill 4 bases before stomping the army. It wasn't balance that lost Artosis the game it was his playing.

i didnt see the match but there is very little you can do to stop marauders from killing ur hatcheries. You have to pretty much take mapcontrol during early midgame and keep it throughout. Depending on the map of course. But hard, very hard.
Funny, however, seeing all this marauder mobility vs zerg immobility when it is we, zerg, who are supposed to abuse terran immobility.
What?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#303
On September 05 2010 09:35 SiguR wrote:
Last shadow drops in every single tournament/game i've seen him play.

please, LS opponents, take freewins!
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
September 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#304
On September 05 2010 09:35 SiguR wrote:
Last shadow drops in every single tournament/game i've seen him play.

I was about to post the same thing.
It's his video card i think.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
Samejima
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada534 Posts
September 05 2010 00:36 GMT
#305
omg drop again, and Kiwi had that game imo.
What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized yet.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
September 05 2010 00:36 GMT
#306
Pretty nice of Kiwikaki to RE.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 05 2010 00:37 GMT
#307
On September 05 2010 09:36 QueueQueue wrote:
Pretty nice of Kiwikaki to RE.


That's what they said about Machine as well... Uh oh.
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
September 05 2010 00:37 GMT
#308
Kiwikaki such a manner player! Allows for the regame even if lastshadows graphics card is fucking up. Game 2 is going to start.
Hold-Lurker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States403 Posts
September 05 2010 00:38 GMT
#309
Seriously - tourney should just enforce free wins and stop making the players look like bad guys for deciding to re or take free wins. This is the same thing as Tesla's tourney. LS opponents, take the wins, otherwise it just lets him get a free re-game every series.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 00:39:37
September 05 2010 00:39 GMT
#310
yea, given LS past(and present) i wouldnt be suprised if he DCs on purpose.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 00:39:45
September 05 2010 00:39 GMT
#311
Just take the win Kiwi. This is pretty bad.


Edit: how does the 2 minute rule effect re-game?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 05 2010 00:40 GMT
#312
On September 05 2010 09:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
yea, given LS past(and present) i wouldnt be suprised if he DCs on purpose.

It's really obvious to me
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
September 05 2010 00:41 GMT
#313
Nice of KiwiKaki,

but really it should be decided by admins -_-
Its grack
Donner
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany91 Posts
September 05 2010 00:41 GMT
#314
solution for this is so simple most of the times. dust of your gfx card fan, get a new fan for 4$, configure the fan speed in catalyst control center etc...
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
September 05 2010 00:42 GMT
#315
On September 05 2010 09:34 QueueQueue wrote:
Serious Lastshadow? Dropping again? Lame....

MMhrmm
I get it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 05 2010 00:42 GMT
#316
On September 05 2010 09:41 Donner wrote:
solution for this is so simple most of the times. dust of your gfx card fan, get a new fan for 4$, configure the fan speed in catalyst control center etc...

yeah but some people aren't comfortable opening their computers and if they fuck up they can fry their entire motherboard
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
September 05 2010 00:43 GMT
#317
On September 05 2010 08:52 Siffer wrote:
While it is absolutely hilarious to see Artosis rage out of game via avenues like state of the game podcast, it is completely terrible to see him rage in a tournament game like this. He is a fucking GOM employee now. Fucker has to man up and say GL HF followed by silence until GG.

Learn some manners, artosis.

Drewbie is 100% correct in talking back. He gets thrashed on by IdrA and Artosis all the time. I didn't see the games, but judging from reading this thread, Artosis played like shit.


P.S. I am a zerg player

idra and artosis just love crying together every night about siege tanks and reapers.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 00:44:58
September 05 2010 00:43 GMT
#318
On September 05 2010 09:39 QueueQueue wrote:
Edit: how does the 2 minute rule effect re-game?

If players drop before two minutes in game there will be a re-game. But after the second time it's def win. Suppose after two minutes, the opposing player can choose to take the def win.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 05 2010 00:44 GMT
#319
On September 05 2010 09:43 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 09:39 QueueQueue wrote:
Edit: how does the 2 minute rule effect re-game?

If players drop before two minutes in game there will be a re-game. Suppose after two minutes, the opposing player can choose to take the def win.

I'd take the free win every time btw, don't understand why people don't.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
September 05 2010 00:44 GMT
#320
He drops multiple times in every tournament he enters. That, plus his history of cheating, makes me wish people would just start taking free wins from him.
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