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keV.

United States3214 Posts

September 05 2010 00:44 GMT

#321

On September 05 2010 09:41 bokeevboke wrote:
Nice of KiwiKaki,

but really it should be decided by admins -_-

Agree. I got kicked from the chat for saying it.... Not that terrible fan boy mods are uncommon.

bokeevboke

Singapore1674 Posts

September 05 2010 00:45 GMT

#322

On September 05 2010 09:42 Shikyo wrote:

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yeah but some people aren't comfortable opening their computers and if they fuck up they can fry their entire motherboard

Did he try limiting framecap in variables.txt?

QueueQueue

Canada1000 Posts

September 05 2010 00:45 GMT

#323

On September 05 2010 09:43 GenoZStriker wrote:

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If players drop before two minutes in game there will be a re-game. Suppose after two minutes, the opposing player can choose to take the def win.

I was referring to when a drop occurs under 2 minutes in a re-game that was called from a drop in the game before. But it was clarified.

dcemuser

United States3248 Posts

September 05 2010 00:45 GMT

#324

On September 05 2010 09:42 Shikyo wrote:
yeah but some people aren't comfortable opening their computers and if they fuck up they can fry their entire motherboard

No. The video card only touches the motherboard on one side. If you had both hands filled with static electricity from rubbing balloons on your hair and were holding a bottle of water upside down using only your teeth, you could probably fry your motherboard though.

Seriously, if it scares him to replace a $4 fan, remove the video card from the case, and then replace the fan, and then put it back. You never even touch the motherboard that way.

dizzy101

Netherlands2066 Posts

September 05 2010 00:45 GMT

#325

On September 05 2010 09:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
yea, given LS past(and present) i wouldnt be suprised if he DCs on purpose.

Somebody should check his ladder game history--and see if he drops out as often there as he does in tournaments.

QueueQueue

Canada1000 Posts

September 05 2010 00:47 GMT

#326

On September 05 2010 09:41 bokeevboke wrote:
Nice of KiwiKaki,

but really it should be decided by admins -_-

I agree. The problem with giving the player the option is that it puts them in an awkward situation. A lot of people care about their image in the community and take the mannered route, even if they actually want the win. Having the admins decide removes that obligation to re-game.

Kage

India788 Posts

September 05 2010 00:49 GMT

#327

Silver vs last shadow when LS dropped silver gave the regame. Then silver dropped next game and LS took the win. Wow why did Kiwi give a re to such a player?

Edit: Didn't matter Kiwi just rolled over him with 4 gate on that game.

On_Slaught

United States12190 Posts

September 05 2010 00:49 GMT

#328

TLS should be kicked from the tourny. Based on what he's done this tourny against Machine and Kiwi, plus what he did to Silver in that other tourny, he shouldn't even be invited anymore unless he changes something.

Not only is it absurd, it only demonstrates how much of a tool he is by not giving others the chance they all continue to give him.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

September 05 2010 00:49 GMT

#329

On September 05 2010 09:45 dcemuser wrote:

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static electricity is the problem yes, and you need much less than that. My father actually fried his a few years ago without doing anything special I guess :/ For a person who's never opened his computer before it can be frightening

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

September 05 2010 00:50 GMT

#330

On September 05 2010 09:35 Sfydjklm wrote:

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On September 05 2010 09:05 blade55555 wrote:

On September 05 2010 09:01 Sfydjklm wrote:

On September 05 2010 08:49 Shikyo wrote:

On September 05 2010 08:47 NonFactor wrote:

On September 05 2010 08:41 GenoZStriker wrote:

On September 05 2010 08:39 Lucius2 wrote:
when exactly was zerg the best race in the beta!?

Errr you don't remember when mass roach > all?

Um no. Mass roach was indeed strong in >LATE GAME< the problem here is that Zerg doesen't make it to >LATE GAME< most of their games, due to their extremely weak early game and early-mid game. (Numerous factors play to this.)

Zerg was never ''strong'', T and P just learned how to abuse their strenghts better against Zerg, that's all. Dimaga may have made Zerg look strong, but he always seemed one step ahead of everyone else and is an extremely skilled player. (Like IEM EU showed.)

Anyways, yeah, lack of Zergs is getting sad. =[] But what can you do?

Anyways, tuned in most of the games, been enjoying most of the games, Machine played exceptionally well.

Yep, changing the Roach supply to 1 was a very critical mistake. Back then, Zerg was the best race in the endgame while sucking at all points before(how it should be). Now Zerg is merely able to compete in the lategame after being completely useless for the first 10-15 minutes. It really was a bad change.

i think its ridiculous how when zerg was the strongest race and terrans/protoss refused to do anything creative(apart from a few good seeds like Jinro with his reaper into ghost opening which as effective as it was for some reason everyone else refused to implement) and all that happened was a million patches that nerfed zerg over the course of a few months. Now zerg is told to "use nydus" for half a year and no end to this insanity is in sight.

I agree its funny how terran/protoss were complaining and all that and like you said zerg to nerfed hardcore and now its opposite and terran/protoss's are telling zergs to be more creative when they couldn't do it themselves? Hypocrisy at its best

Although I feel Artosis did play pretty bad against drewbie he never really transitioned or anything and losing all those mutas in that last game was bad let alone letting drewbie kill 4 bases before stomping the army. It wasn't balance that lost Artosis the game it was his playing.

i didnt see the match but there is very little you can do to stop marauders from killing ur hatcheries. You have to pretty much take mapcontrol during early midgame and keep it throughout. Depending on the map of course. But hard, very hard.
Funny, however, seeing all this marauder mobility vs zerg immobility when it is we, zerg, who are supposed to abuse terran immobility.
What?

If you saw the game and armies and where they were you would know it was Artosis being dumb not because of how strong marauder are

. (I am a zerg player btw).

It was ARtosis's playing all game that cost him not balance heh.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

September 05 2010 00:51 GMT

#331

On September 05 2010 09:49 On_Slaught wrote:
TLS should be kicked from the tourny. Based on what he's done this tourny against Machine and Kiwi, plus what he did to Silver in that other tourny, he shouldn't even be invited anymore unless he changes something.

Not only is it absurd, it only demonstrates how much of a tool he is by not giving others the chance they all continue to give him.

This all has been known for about 4 years now, I'm not sure why people are like that.

bokeevboke

Singapore1674 Posts

September 05 2010 00:52 GMT

#332

wow. smart play by Kiwikaki.

KamuL

United States154 Posts

September 05 2010 00:53 GMT

#333

he told kiwikaki AND machine to take the wins, they offered the re-game.

GenoZStriker

United States2914 Posts

September 05 2010 00:55 GMT

#334

^ Yeah you can't take that away from him. He did offer Machine the first game but Machine was nice enough to give him a chance and so did KiWiKaKi, so you can't really blame the guy.

Overall results
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KiWiKaKi 2:1 LS

Black Gun

Germany4482 Posts

September 05 2010 00:55 GMT

#335

i really dont get how anybody can be such a tool as ls was when denying silver the regame that silver had just given him. since this incident, i personally would never give him a regame. but kiwi is clearly the superior player and he was up 1-0, so it was very unlikely to fall back on him...

Lennon

United Kingdom2275 Posts

September 05 2010 00:56 GMT

#336

On September 05 2010 09:51 Shikyo wrote:

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This all has been known for about 4 years now, I'm not sure why people are like that.

He's a taker: not a giver.

teamsolid

Canada3668 Posts

September 05 2010 00:56 GMT

#337

This was not an invite tournament. He got in by winning some online qualifier, so nothing they can do about it really.

Spektrum

United States10 Posts

September 05 2010 00:58 GMT

#338

On September 05 2010 09:55 GenoZStriker wrote:
^ Yeah you can't take that away from him. He did offer Machine the first game but Machine was nice enough to give him a chance and so did KiWiKaKi, so you can't really blame the guy.

Overall results
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KiWiKaKi 2:1 LS

Score was actually + Show Spoiler +

KiWiKaKi 2:0 LS

over the course of 4 games.

AbeToss

United States60 Posts

September 05 2010 00:58 GMT

#339

KiWiKaKi's FF's in game 4 (of a BO3 surprisingly

) gave me such a nerdgasm. Blocking those SCV's from repairing was so pimp. Can't wait to see more play from him in this tournament.

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

September 05 2010 01:02 GMT

#340

Group A is going to be interesting O_O! I wonder what IEM's policy on tiebreaks is? Because there could be like 4 different tiebreak situations.

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