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Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 15 2010 15:45 GMT
#181
On September 16 2010 00:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 00:30 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Wow. Just wow. I join a game and the asshole 6pools me and ofcourse its steppes. There was literally Nothing I could do. So fucking stupid, why cant tournaments learn that the maps in the Blizzard Ladder-pool arent Any good! The Only way (Only freaking way!) for us to ever get good usermade maps into the ladder is if tournaments start to use them.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to 6pool in a tournament. It was his first win ever in like 5 tries in the tournament aswell -.-


GG and good luck next GO4sc2cup...

Getting usermade maps to ladder is hard, it took many years to blizzard add WC3 usermade maps to ladder. Broodwar it was okay because there was no ladder (private servers had ladders with own maps that point).

I just dont get how any tournament can take itself seriously with this map-pool. For instance, I got 4gate proxy-allined last Go4sc2. Guess which map. Desert oasis. Really, using Desert oasis in a tournament? Have we sunken that low?

Also, as it turns out the guy who beat me mains terran and just chose zerg so he could 6pool becouse it was Steppes. Cant we also have a freaking rule that says that you have to have 1 race? It takes out a lot of trouble (For instance some people play different races depending on maps/mus and so on)? The guy switched race just before the game started so ofc I was prepared for a terran so I 14pooled. -.-

Lost a lot of respect for both the SC2-community and ESL today.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 16:00:34
September 15 2010 15:59 GMT
#182
GSL is using Desert Oasis. Do you think that they sunk very low by doing that ? It's a decent map.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 15 2010 16:00 GMT
#183
On September 16 2010 00:59 Ancient.eu wrote:
GSL is using Desert Oasis. Do you think that they sunk very low by doing that ?

No, the difference is that in GSL you can choose which maps you want to eliminate.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 15 2010 16:01 GMT
#184
On September 16 2010 00:45 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 00:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:30 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Wow. Just wow. I join a game and the asshole 6pools me and ofcourse its steppes. There was literally Nothing I could do. So fucking stupid, why cant tournaments learn that the maps in the Blizzard Ladder-pool arent Any good! The Only way (Only freaking way!) for us to ever get good usermade maps into the ladder is if tournaments start to use them.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to 6pool in a tournament. It was his first win ever in like 5 tries in the tournament aswell -.-


GG and good luck next GO4sc2cup...

Getting usermade maps to ladder is hard, it took many years to blizzard add WC3 usermade maps to ladder. Broodwar it was okay because there was no ladder (private servers had ladders with own maps that point).

I just dont get how any tournament can take itself seriously with this map-pool. For instance, I got 4gate proxy-allined last Go4sc2. Guess which map. Desert oasis. Really, using Desert oasis in a tournament? Have we sunken that low?

Also, as it turns out the guy who beat me mains terran and just chose zerg so he could 6pool becouse it was Steppes. Cant we also have a freaking rule that says that you have to have 1 race? It takes out a lot of trouble (For instance some people play different races depending on maps/mus and so on)? The guy switched race just before the game started so ofc I was prepared for a terran so I 14pooled. -.-

Lost a lot of respect for both the SC2-community and ESL today.


Pay attention to loading screen and play very safe builds (meaning that you can defend rushes) rather than standard builds. More you advance in bracket, move even closer to standard play.
Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
September 15 2010 16:03 GMT
#185
On September 16 2010 01:00 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 00:59 Ancient.eu wrote:
GSL is using Desert Oasis. Do you think that they sunk very low by doing that ?

No, the difference is that in GSL you can choose which maps you want to eliminate.

Still it does not change the fact that it is played in the biggest tournament in the world right now and it is a map in the ladder pool as well.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
September 15 2010 16:10 GMT
#186
Stream is online:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/73 (german)
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
dras
Profile Joined August 2010
Kazakhstan376 Posts
September 15 2010 16:10 GMT
#187
why wasn't this on the calender?
Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
September 15 2010 16:13 GMT
#188
Yes, the calendar has been quite empty in the last period, a lot of events missing.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 15 2010 16:19 GMT
#189
On September 16 2010 01:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 00:45 Sl4ktarN wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:30 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Wow. Just wow. I join a game and the asshole 6pools me and ofcourse its steppes. There was literally Nothing I could do. So fucking stupid, why cant tournaments learn that the maps in the Blizzard Ladder-pool arent Any good! The Only way (Only freaking way!) for us to ever get good usermade maps into the ladder is if tournaments start to use them.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to 6pool in a tournament. It was his first win ever in like 5 tries in the tournament aswell -.-


GG and good luck next GO4sc2cup...

Getting usermade maps to ladder is hard, it took many years to blizzard add WC3 usermade maps to ladder. Broodwar it was okay because there was no ladder (private servers had ladders with own maps that point).

I just dont get how any tournament can take itself seriously with this map-pool. For instance, I got 4gate proxy-allined last Go4sc2. Guess which map. Desert oasis. Really, using Desert oasis in a tournament? Have we sunken that low?

Also, as it turns out the guy who beat me mains terran and just chose zerg so he could 6pool becouse it was Steppes. Cant we also have a freaking rule that says that you have to have 1 race? It takes out a lot of trouble (For instance some people play different races depending on maps/mus and so on)? The guy switched race just before the game started so ofc I was prepared for a terran so I 14pooled. -.-

Lost a lot of respect for both the SC2-community and ESL today.


Pay attention to loading screen and play very safe builds (meaning that you can defend rushes) rather than standard builds. More you advance in bracket, move even closer to standard play.


Preparing for a 6pool on Steppes = 10pool. Im not gonna 10pool every game on Steppes couse if I do when somebody plays standard I autolose.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 15 2010 16:20 GMT
#190
On September 16 2010 01:19 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 01:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:45 Sl4ktarN wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:30 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Wow. Just wow. I join a game and the asshole 6pools me and ofcourse its steppes. There was literally Nothing I could do. So fucking stupid, why cant tournaments learn that the maps in the Blizzard Ladder-pool arent Any good! The Only way (Only freaking way!) for us to ever get good usermade maps into the ladder is if tournaments start to use them.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to 6pool in a tournament. It was his first win ever in like 5 tries in the tournament aswell -.-


GG and good luck next GO4sc2cup...

Getting usermade maps to ladder is hard, it took many years to blizzard add WC3 usermade maps to ladder. Broodwar it was okay because there was no ladder (private servers had ladders with own maps that point).

I just dont get how any tournament can take itself seriously with this map-pool. For instance, I got 4gate proxy-allined last Go4sc2. Guess which map. Desert oasis. Really, using Desert oasis in a tournament? Have we sunken that low?

Also, as it turns out the guy who beat me mains terran and just chose zerg so he could 6pool becouse it was Steppes. Cant we also have a freaking rule that says that you have to have 1 race? It takes out a lot of trouble (For instance some people play different races depending on maps/mus and so on)? The guy switched race just before the game started so ofc I was prepared for a terran so I 14pooled. -.-

Lost a lot of respect for both the SC2-community and ESL today.


Pay attention to loading screen and play very safe builds (meaning that you can defend rushes) rather than standard builds. More you advance in bracket, move even closer to standard play.


Preparing for a 6pool on Steppes = 10pool. Im not gonna 10pool every game on Steppes couse if I do when somebody plays standard I autolose.


Then you will always lose to 6pool and always complain. Scout earlier and be prepared for it next time. This is a tournament. If you can't adapt your play to it then you will always lose in a tournament.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 15 2010 16:24 GMT
#191
On September 16 2010 01:20 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 01:19 Sl4ktarN wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:45 Sl4ktarN wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 16 2010 00:30 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Wow. Just wow. I join a game and the asshole 6pools me and ofcourse its steppes. There was literally Nothing I could do. So fucking stupid, why cant tournaments learn that the maps in the Blizzard Ladder-pool arent Any good! The Only way (Only freaking way!) for us to ever get good usermade maps into the ladder is if tournaments start to use them.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to 6pool in a tournament. It was his first win ever in like 5 tries in the tournament aswell -.-


GG and good luck next GO4sc2cup...

Getting usermade maps to ladder is hard, it took many years to blizzard add WC3 usermade maps to ladder. Broodwar it was okay because there was no ladder (private servers had ladders with own maps that point).

I just dont get how any tournament can take itself seriously with this map-pool. For instance, I got 4gate proxy-allined last Go4sc2. Guess which map. Desert oasis. Really, using Desert oasis in a tournament? Have we sunken that low?

Also, as it turns out the guy who beat me mains terran and just chose zerg so he could 6pool becouse it was Steppes. Cant we also have a freaking rule that says that you have to have 1 race? It takes out a lot of trouble (For instance some people play different races depending on maps/mus and so on)? The guy switched race just before the game started so ofc I was prepared for a terran so I 14pooled. -.-

Lost a lot of respect for both the SC2-community and ESL today.


Pay attention to loading screen and play very safe builds (meaning that you can defend rushes) rather than standard builds. More you advance in bracket, move even closer to standard play.


Preparing for a 6pool on Steppes = 10pool. Im not gonna 10pool every game on Steppes couse if I do when somebody plays standard I autolose.


Then you will always lose to 6pool and always complain. Scout earlier and be prepared for it next time. This is a tournament. If you can't adapt your play to it then you will always lose in a tournament.


Im not complaining about the strategy, ofcourse its my own fault for losing to it. However. I also lose a lot of respect to ESL for using such bad maps.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
September 15 2010 16:32 GMT
#192
You sound like a really sore loser.
I mean you lose respect to ESL for using that map? You should lose respect to every tourney then, even GSL (yes you can vote it out, but still they are using it).
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 15 2010 16:36 GMT
#193
On September 16 2010 01:32 Wuffey wrote:
You sound like a really sore loser.
I mean you lose respect to ESL for using that map? You should lose respect to every tourney then, even GSL (yes you can vote it out, but still they are using it).

I think all tournaments should have the same system as GSL. Craftcup uses it (Or some other one, cant remember) and it´s great. Both players basicly just downvote maps until theres only 1 left, in that way both people get a map that suits their race and (Hopefully) is a good map.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 15 2010 18:13 GMT
#194
Very good play from haypro !
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 15 2010 18:19 GMT
#195
On September 16 2010 03:13 Lylat wrote:
Very good play from haypro !


+ Show Spoiler +
tarson got roflstomped badly - although haypro played really good, it were more the blunders of tarson than awsome moves of the zerg that decided the game; getting all marines owned by banes quite early on one point and not unsieging the tanks later on....not that pretty
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 15 2010 20:10 GMT
#196
Haypro is destroying all his T opponents .. scary
teumas
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden280 Posts
September 15 2010 20:11 GMT
#197
On September 16 2010 05:10 Lylat wrote:
Haypro is destroying all his T opponents .. scary


Hehe, yeah. Quacky must have been really suprised by all those zerglings swarming into his base
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 20:47:15
September 15 2010 20:44 GMT
#198
Am I looking at the wrong bracket? Haypro was supposed to play Nbs...

edit: Nbs=quacky
HyTemplar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany265 Posts
September 15 2010 20:51 GMT
#199
is haypro iranian?because of the name and the look
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
September 15 2010 20:55 GMT
#200
A PvZ in a final??! Long time no see^^.
Hope HasuObs makes it.
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