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Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
August 21 2010 16:54 GMT
#4581
On August 22 2010 01:51 Sealteam wrote:
Marines & thors << Blings & Mutas


This.

The initial answer to counter mass mutas is mass marines, with a few thors mixed in. However, banelings rape the marines, and speedlings rape the thors. Mutas in combination just decimate. Since thors are so immobile as well mutas can easily harass whilst you're pushing out.

Not complaining about imbalance here, just saying "marines" aren't the answer.

I think a few point defence drones on/around your thors would be a possible solution.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
August 21 2010 16:54 GMT
#4582
On August 22 2010 01:53 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:52 Tabbris wrote:
On August 22 2010 01:51 Gaxton wrote:
How many days until Blizzard patch this?
Any guesses?

Why would they patch it?

because it hurts thors role in TVZ.

Think of it as a necessary buff
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 21 2010 16:54 GMT
#4583
Same build again for Tarson, 1 Rax, 1Fac, Helion harass.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
xlep
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany274 Posts
August 21 2010 16:54 GMT
#4584
great game, can't believe he killed 5 thors like that
skill is scissors beating rock
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 21 2010 16:54 GMT
#4585
On August 22 2010 01:52 Skamtet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:51 Gaxton wrote:
How many days until Blizzard patch this?
Any guesses?
Haha, oh wow.

Oh JESUS, that s exactly what i didnt want, people starting to call it imba. You need friggin support for Thors against mass muta, everybody knew this alrady in beta. Against Marine thor you can go, bling-ling-muta, against which T implements tanks.
Seriously, Dimaga used this as well.

And again:
THERE ARE NO MAGIC BOXES. you just take your mutas, move in, hit stop where you think they are fine. That's it, no magic, no boxes
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 21 2010 16:54 GMT
#4586
I'm actually surprised Day9 isn't on top of this. Must have been too busy lately to keep up with all the discussion on it, even with the past BW experience... Probably a few dailies on these games soon though soooo lol
EoR
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland127 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4587
On August 22 2010 01:51 floor exercise wrote:
Idra got that technique off Decemvrie's stream


Because he always spends his free time watching it. =D
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4588
On August 22 2010 01:53 antelope591 wrote:
Terran goes bio and loses vs Z "omg why didn't they go pure mech"
Terran goes pure mech and loses vs Z "omg why didn't they build marines"


and that is why the standard for TvZ right now is BioMech.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4589
fucking sick surround
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4590
sick surround
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4591
See, this is why you get speed vs marine hellion push lol
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 16:55:51
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4592
Tarson in MAJOR trouble. He loses 5 Marines and 1 Helion. Forced to play passive.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4593
--- Nuked ---
Ankare
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden26 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4594
lol wow nice micro there with the zerglings!
Huvvaligen.
LittlefOOt
Profile Joined July 2010
England29 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4595
Beautiful surround by IdrA
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4596
I hear surrounds with zergling speed is good. confirm/deny?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4597
I see + 2-3 Ravens to mech push and it might be ok..
SteeJanS
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada111 Posts
August 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#4598
On August 22 2010 01:53 antelope591 wrote:
Terran goes bio and loses vs Z "omg why didn't they go pure mech"
Terran goes pure mech and loses vs Z "omg why didn't they build marines"


This is so true, reading these comments is hilarious, everyone seems to have jumped on the "Terran is easy-mode" bandwagon. Now I'm not saying there's no imbalance at all (maybe slight), but people here are ridiculous.
Ramble
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden877 Posts
August 21 2010 16:56 GMT
#4599
I think it was meant for HSM from the raven to supplement thors in these situations but HSM sucks :/
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
August 21 2010 16:56 GMT
#4600
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