This Saturday and Sunday, Inferno Online SC2 Cup #1 will be held in Stockholm, Sweden.
I, TheBeard, will be in Stockholm shout-casting the event LIVE to the rest of the world. This means that if you want to see the biggest EU Nordic SC2 off-line tournament so far, tune in to the qualifiers on Saturday (31st July) or just the main tournament on Sunday! (1st August)
I will be having drop-in co-casting for anyone at the event willing to shout-cast a game or two with me. I will also talk to many of the Nordic players and get their reactions on the tournament and also the future of StarCraft 2.
MaDFroG will be there? Yes! Interview with big names? Yes!
Some of them will even co-cast with me a game or two.
Mappool is: Blistering Sands, Scrap Station, Steppes of War, Xel'Naga Caverns, Kulas Ravine, Lost Temple and Metalopolis
Keep in mind though people, this is me sitting in a corner of IOS and casting, not some big produced show. I'll do what I can to deliver the event to you guys!
On July 30 2010 01:54 ESLTheBeard wrote: MaDFroG will be there? Yes! Interview with big names? Yes!
Some of them will even co-cast with me a game or two.
Mappool is: Blistering Sands, Scrap Station, Steppes of War, Xel'Naga Caverns, Kulas Ravine, Lost Temple and Metalopolis
Keep in mind though people, this is me sitting in a corner of IOS and casting, not some big produced show. I'll do what I can to deliver the event to you guys!
sit on boxes in messy room filled with wires this time too? :D
No MorroW, this time around I will do the setup for the cast myself, including comfy chairs and hot chicks, right Maven? You'll get me some gg-girls right? ^^
How come the format for the saturday qualifiers havent been announced? I'm guessing they will be BO3 as well then(based only on the fact that its a lan event) or?
I will be Casting theese games afterwards at home with replays unfortunatley we only have the replays of the games being streamed due too some server issues at the gamingcenter we are at.
I don't get why TheBeard doesn't get Haypro to co-commentate ... he's sitting right behind him and obviously has more to say than the other guy about SC2. Not that it really matters though since the microphone is inaudble
But asides from the technical issues, this tournament looks to be pretty sweet ^^
I don't understand what's up with Namaa, he has like no army compared to Merz, considering Merz took quite a bit of damage from the early attacks. Also it shows he has like no minerals but tons of gas.
On August 01 2010 20:00 DrainX wrote: Where is the MaDFroG interview? I can't find it Or was it done on video? If so, could anyone sum up what was said?
I should have typed it as they spoke. It was a low key interview, nothing much said but he basically felt the games went well. They had talked about how getting fast roaches lends to weakness shortly after to enemy roaches. He also spoke advice about being a competitive player, and improving by playing many many games. He stated playing 100 games since official release. That about sums it up.
If anyone at the event is reading this. Please tell the casters to remove the background music, lower the ingame sounds and adjust their microphone volumes to the same level.
Pekkz, It'll be back in about 20-30 minutes. Food break.
DrainX, we're on a it-cafe so we cant lower the background music (If you are talking about the actuall music in the background) but if it is ingame music ofc they will lower it.
On August 01 2010 20:59 newHABIT wrote: Pekkz, It'll be back in about 20-30 minutes. Food break.
DrainX, we're on a it-cafe so we cant lower the background music (If you are talking about the actuall music in the background) but if it is ingame music ofc they will lower it.
Yeah I was talking about the ingame background music. Thanks ! Great event you got going there. Wish I was there.
On August 01 2010 20:35 DrainX wrote: If anyone at the event is reading this. Please tell the casters to remove the background music, lower the ingame sounds and adjust their microphone volumes to the same level.
Asked them to do this earlier on stream's chat, Beard replied that the music/sounds are so loud so that players wouldn't hear the casters (they sit couple meters away from them). Got the impression that the idea came from admins and not the streamers. Really sucks tho that on battle you can just hear annoying ingame music and siege fire.
Why would it be a problem to have the background music off on the streamers computer? :s Couldn't they just play some sound in the background or near the people who play? Or force the players to have music on?
On August 01 2010 22:14 radadaundandan wrote: In this situation it is so obvious how much the zerg misses its good old lurkers.
not necesarily lurkers, but Blizz must do sg about ZvT. It's one thing that Morrow owned the guy but he flanked with an entire army and killed around 5 units at max
On August 01 2010 22:23 Its0nlyFuN wrote: Please fix your microphone... Not even a single sentence is coming through without a word missing!!!!!!!!! And turn off ingame sounds!
This + echo makes the commentary unlistenable.
Edit: They're in a building with 350 computers, I don't get why they don't just have one running their own stream, so they can instantly be aware of all these problems without people having to phone in to inform them of the various issues.
Sigh it's not that we are hearing double voices but the sound cuts out every few seconds while they are casting, especially during hectic moments in the game.
It annoys me how ignorant they are. While still present, the main problem wasn't sound echoing at all - it was Beard's microphone cutting off all the time. Then they claim they had no problems and blame people calling in, which for some reason is their only source for problem reporting. Heh.
On August 01 2010 23:20 vxl wrote: It annoys me how ignorant they are. While still present, the main problem wasn't sound echoing at all - it was Beard's microphone cutting off all the time. Then they claim they had no problems and blame people calling in, which for some reason is their only source for problem reporting. Heh.
No, they thought they had a completely different problem because someone had two copies of the stream running without realizing so he thought there was an echo
On August 01 2010 23:20 vxl wrote: It annoys me how ignorant they are. While still present, the main problem wasn't sound echoing at all - it was Beard's microphone cutting off all the time. Then they claim they had no problems and blame people calling in, which for some reason is their only source for problem reporting. Heh.
No, they thought they had a completely different problem because someone had two copies of the stream running without realizing so he thought there was an echo
On August 02 2010 00:37 SkyTheUnknown wrote: No offense to the Terran players, you are all skilled. But Blizz, where is the next patch. Tournaments are getting boring nowadays with all these TvTs
i dunno man when you think about it, in king of the beta were 1st zerg 2nd toss 3rd-4th terran dimaga showed mech is beatable in finals of esl cup vs sarens
I hope he get a good comeback I still haven't seen him play.
A ZvZ of madfrog was casted. Very nice games, not ling/baneling play at all, mostly roach matches, muta's in one game too. Madfrog won 2-1. I hope he keeps practicing and become one of the top players again.
In the interview he said he had been playing from the start of the beta but under a different name so he could practice incognito. And that his advice to anyone wanting to become better is to NOT copy other builds (because you will not understand them), just create your own style and then practice an insane amount. (on ladder)
On August 02 2010 03:20 Necrosjef wrote: This is just another huge boost for those of us who are sick of invitationals. Unknown player utterly raping morrow in the final of a live event.
Likely tons more players like Sjow waiting for a chance to kick ass in a sign up tourny.
SjoW used to be a wc3 pro though so he isn't really unknown. And playing like he does now he could easily make a name for himself in noninvite tournaments like this one and later get invited to invite tournaments.
On August 02 2010 03:20 Necrosjef wrote: This is just another huge boost for those of us who are sick of invitationals. Unknown player utterly raping morrow in the final of a live event.
Likely tons more players like Sjow waiting for a chance to kick ass in a sign up tourny.
SjoW used to be a wc3 pro though so he isn't really unknown. And playing like he does now he could easily make a name for himself in noninvite tournaments like this one and later get invited to invite tournaments.
if hes who im thinking of he was protoss then like 2-3 weeks ago switched to terran, and has been doing a lot better since. altho i dont think hes won nething hes made it semi far / far through a lot of weekly eu tournaments
edit: and im pretty morrow's tvt is his worst by far
It also seems like the commentators sound starts lagging (not the stream) when a big battle happens. Or maybe it just because it's muted by the higher game sounds.
I didn't watch the last game from the start but I don't think MorroW expanded at all in that game. SjoW was at two bases and had started building his third so MorroW was pretty much all in (he even pulled 8 or so SCVs to help in the last battle but they got intercepted). When his army was destroyed above SjoWs base it was pretty much gg. My guess is that MorroW expected to be able to take out SjoWs expansion with his first push or at least do a lot more damage than he did.
On August 02 2010 04:06 Everlong wrote: Great games, even if it was all TvT, entertaining.. Raplays would be really cool.
I believe only games that were streamed will have replays released - there's a bit of a catch 22 present when it comes to accessing the replays see (you play SC2 from a server or something like that, so when logged in as a normal user you can't access the folder where reps are saved... when logged in as admin, you can't access the server).
On August 02 2010 03:55 DrainX wrote: I didn't watch the last game from the start but I don't think MorroW expanded at all in that game. SjoW was at two bases and had started building his third so MorroW was pretty much all in (he even pulled 8 or so SCVs to help in the last battle but they got intercepted). When his army was destroyed above SjoWs base it was pretty much gg. My guess is that MorroW expected to be able to take out SjoWs expansion with his first push or at least do a lot more damage than he did.
Yes, MorroW pretty much did a 1base all-in against the 2base setup secured by his opponent. In the interview afterwards, SjoW said he had thought MorroW would expand and presumed that he must've also been pretty tired already and stuff. Anyways, he defended quite well against the all-in, intercepting those reinforcements, I think, and even if MorroW had expanded, SjoW would of course have been ahead.
ps: I'd really like a replaypack, too. Especially those games of SjoW vs. Habit, of which Habit said they had been the most entertaining and SjoW said they had been the hardest (apart from the finals) for him, although winning 2-0 (and playing TvZ, which he didn't say).
vT: 23-5 (82.14%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W L W W | View Games vZ: 16-17 (48.48%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L W L W W W W L W | View Games vP: 16-11 (59.26%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L W L W W W W | View Games
the sample is definitely non indicative in both tvp and tvz departments in lights of balance changes and samples, but the tvt sample is enough of an indication that it is most likely his best and definitely not worst.
Also the sample is limited partially because it only recorded games played through top 8 of tournaments, so morrow has 82% winrate vs stiffest opposition.
and its covering what % of tournaments? and which tournaments? showmatches or nething included? by the way its typed it looks likes its from tl.net which only covers things that are posted on tl.
On August 02 2010 05:07 HuK wrote: and its covering what % of tournaments? and which tournaments? showmatches or nething included? by the way its typed it looks likes its from tl.net which only covers things that are posted on tl.
They have gone to cover quite a few tournaments for their Sc2 TLPD.
well, you have your facts, people can decide for themselves whether 82% winrate over 28 games against best terrans in the world is a worst match up or if it means Morrow is one of the best TvT players in SC2.
On August 02 2010 05:11 Sfydjklm wrote: well, you have your facts, people can decide for themselves whether 82% winrate over 28 games against best terrans in the world is a worst match up or if it means Morrow is one of the best TvT players in SC2.
If you look at what terrans he faced, except a couple I believe Morrow is clearly the better one. A better player beating a worse one doesn't necessarily give you much information.
On August 02 2010 05:11 Sfydjklm wrote: well, you have your facts, people can decide for themselves whether 82% winrate over 28 games against best terrans in the world is a worst match up or if it means Morrow is one of the best TvT players in SC2.
If you look at what terrans he faced, except a couple I believe Morrow is clearly the better one. A better player beating a worse one doesn't necessarily give you much information.
4-0 vs each Strelok and Tarson. :O
But yea. Sorta the point. Not too many terrans better then morrow.^^ also i can claim the same about his tvz and tvp. You gotta understand that there is certain finesse when it comes to this arguement, were talking about a top 10 non-korean player with no apparent weak match ups.
On August 02 2010 05:11 Sfydjklm wrote: well, you have your facts, people can decide for themselves whether 82% winrate over 28 games against best terrans in the world is a worst match up or if it means Morrow is one of the best TvT players in SC2.
If you look at what terrans he faced, except a couple I believe Morrow is clearly the better one. A better player beating a worse one doesn't necessarily give you much information.
4-0 vs each Strelok and Tarson. :O
But yea. Sorta the point. Not too many terrans better then morrow.^^ also i can claim the same about his tvz and tvp. You gotta understand that there is certain finesse when it comes to this arguement, were talking about a top 10 non-korean player with no apparent weak match ups.
and morrow just played strelok in bo3 for craftcup on friday and lost 0-2
just saying! variance!
either way he is a great player no matter what matchup he plays so
On August 02 2010 05:11 Sfydjklm wrote: well, you have your facts, people can decide for themselves whether 82% winrate over 28 games against best terrans in the world is a worst match up or if it means Morrow is one of the best TvT players in SC2.
If you look at what terrans he faced, except a couple I believe Morrow is clearly the better one. A better player beating a worse one doesn't necessarily give you much information.
4-0 vs each Strelok and Tarson. :O
But yea. Sorta the point. Not too many terrans better then morrow.^^ also i can claim the same about his tvz and tvp. You gotta understand that there is certain finesse when it comes to this arguement, were talking about a top 10 non-korean player with no apparent weak match ups.
I'm not saying you are wrong but I don't think the record you posted on previous page necessarily proves your point. You'd have to put in in a larger sample size against terran, protoss and zerg players that are of equal skill level (not just good players) to get a good idea of the strength of each of his match-up. But whatever, I honestly don't care. I just felt like butting in a little. Moving on.
awesome event, everyone is always so manner at these things. im sad naniwa didnt come tho
were many good games and i think show can become a great player if he keeps up the hard work. ive been slacking lately on my practice and it has reflected my scores by not winning any tour yet while in phase 2 i practiced quite a bit and won alot. i can admit im not talented so if i dont get the hours into it im not gonna win, i was happy to come to the finals because there were many great players here.
show is a great guy and im happy he won, i asked him and he said he practiced alot lately and i think he deserve to win because he played smart, creative and fight hard in practice
its maybe uncalled to call judgement on 1 or 2 tvts ive had but in general ive been pretty much unstoppable in tvt since day 1, 10-1 i think my gosugamers stats were there. its just that recently i stopped practicing so much and ppl stopped tank viking (-10 dmg tank nerf) so now i see this new smart style by show just outclassing me, same with strelok some days ago as mentioned in this thread where he just plays a way i have not seen^^
it was a long day and started early in the morning and im sure everyone were tired towards the end i actually only slept about 1 hour this night, maven (admin) called me on my cellphone because i overslept and came 1 hour late, im just so thankful they cares about the players that much and in future i will pay my respects by preparing in practice more and sleeping more, also even more for all the great support ive gotten lately i hope i dont come off as a jackass here with lame excuse of being tired, i think it would he still could have beaten me as easily even if i was at my a-game.
at first when i saw him i thought he was just cheeser but i learned today he is a very smart player with good apm and multitasking, he told me hes actually a macro-oriented player, like swedish TLO bringing creativity with economy )
maybe next tour they should have online qualifiers like enivid said to me because then these finish and danish players could qualify at their home and go here so they dont come and lose qualifier and its a waste. so i think its better with online qualifier. on top of that then u dont have to remove players like zpux just so u can invite the ppl outside sweden, i hope in their future tournaments it will be like this
im very motivated to start practicing now, i learned today that theres much work to be done for me if i want to win in this match up
SjoW is a great player. I've had the pleasure of knowing him since before he was good at wc3 even and he can really take a good foothold in the scene if he puts the hours into it. He has allways been a low apm high efficiency player with good map control and tactics. Yes he used to play protoss in beta and switched to terran in p2 I believe. His terran play is at another level at this point.
Big props to Maven for putting this together, although I must say the people working at IOL were anything but helpful. If they've agreed on hosting a tournament and even have 8 invited people (Where some are from other countries meaning they're actually travelling for hours and living on a hotel or/we) At least they could make the exception of letting the players have a computer available for them for practice/warmup in between games.
Instead we were asked to buy gametime and create accounts if we wanted to play inbetween tournament games (?).
We didn't really have a designated tournament area for day 1, and we weren't even allowed to finish the qualifiers past Quarter finals.
Some of the finnish players who were knocked out were asked to leave for one hour at day2 because "any players who werent part of the tour anymore has to go outside til 10 AM" (Thats when it really opens, we were there at 9 am) But I mean come on? These guys travelled there from finland and now they're throwing them out for 1 hour?!
Interesting note, related to the above, even the players who had matches coming up in 1 hour (at 9 AM) were asked to leave at first and the staff didn't want us to use any of the computers. Although most of the players got kinda upset and were like "Are you fucking serious?" and after some whining here and there they finally let us use some of the computers for warming up.
Again, nothing against Maven and the actual Sc2 admins, they were great, but the ordinary staff at IOL was fucking terrible.
HayprO finished #2 at the last IOL tourney and was rewarded a cash prize + 10 hours of game time at IOL, when he tried to use that to get a comp and practice on, they said "We've got nothing confirming this sorry, you have to pay".
There was probably more but cant think of any at the moment, It'd be really nice if the staff actually showed some sort of sign of customer service next time. Inviting players over then forcing them to pay additional costs just to get a few practice games in here and there seems retarded to me.
On August 02 2010 10:34 MorroW wrote: awesome event, everyone is always so manner at these things. im sad naniwa didnt come tho
were many good games and i think show can become a great player if he keeps up the hard work. ive been slacking lately on my practice and it has reflected my scores by not winning any tour yet while in phase 2 i practiced quite a bit and won alot. i can admit im not talented so if i dont get the hours into it im not gonna win, i was happy to come to the finals because there were many great players here.
show is a great guy and im happy he won, i asked him and he said he practiced alot lately and i think he deserve to win because he played smart, creative and fight hard in practice
its maybe uncalled to call judgement on 1 or 2 tvts ive had but in general ive been pretty much unstoppable in tvt since day 1, 10-1 i think my gosugamers stats were there. its just that recently i stopped practicing so much and ppl stopped tank viking (-10 dmg tank nerf) so now i see this new smart style by show just outclassing me, same with strelok some days ago as mentioned in this thread where he just plays a way i have not seen^^
it was a long day and started early in the morning and im sure everyone were tired towards the end i actually only slept about 1 hour this night, maven (admin) called me on my cellphone because i overslept and came 1 hour late, im just so thankful they cares about the players that much and in future i will pay my respects by preparing in practice more and sleeping more, also even more for all the great support ive gotten lately i hope i dont come off as a jackass here with lame excuse of being tired, i think it would he still could have beaten me as easily even if i was at my a-game.
at first when i saw him i thought he was just cheeser but i learned today he is a very smart player with good apm and multitasking, he told me hes actually a macro-oriented player, like swedish TLO bringing creativity with economy )
maybe next tour they should have online qualifiers like enivid said to me because then these finish and danish players could qualify at their home and go here so they dont come and lose qualifier and its a waste. so i think its better with online qualifier. on top of that then u dont have to remove players like zpux just so u can invite the ppl outside sweden, i hope in their future tournaments it will be like this
im very motivated to start practicing now, i learned today that theres much work to be done for me if i want to win in this match up
SjoW you fish
Anyway, after reading a comment about Madfrog losing to a true old schooler (SjoW), I googled him and realized the guy was around during the very first WC3 ladder season... I knew he used to play WC3 but didn't know he was that old school - that's pretty cool!
On August 02 2010 17:12 meRz wrote: It was really fun to meet everyone again!
Big props to Maven for putting this together, although I must say the people working at IOL were anything but helpful. If they've agreed on hosting a tournament and even have 8 invited people (Where some are from other countries meaning they're actually travelling for hours and living on a hotel or/we) At least they could make the exception of letting the players have a computer available for them for practice/warmup in between games.
Instead we were asked to buy gametime and create accounts if we wanted to play inbetween tournament games (?).
We didn't really have a designated tournament area for day 1, and we weren't even allowed to finish the qualifiers past Quarter finals.
Some of the finnish players who were knocked out were asked to leave for one hour at day2 because "any players who werent part of the tour anymore has to go outside til 10 AM" (Thats when it really opens, we were there at 9 am) But I mean come on? These guys travelled there from finland and now they're throwing them out for 1 hour?!
Interesting note, related to the above, even the players who had matches coming up in 1 hour (at 9 AM) were asked to leave at first and the staff didn't want us to use any of the computers. Although most of the players got kinda upset and were like "Are you fucking serious?" and after some whining here and there they finally let us use some of the computers for warming up.
Again, nothing against Maven and the actual Sc2 admins, they were great, but the ordinary staff at IOL was fucking terrible.
HayprO finished #2 at the last IOL tourney and was rewarded a cash prize + 10 hours of game time at IOL, when he tried to use that to get a comp and practice on, they said "We've got nothing confirming this sorry, you have to pay".
There was probably more but cant think of any at the moment, It'd be really nice if the staff actually showed some sort of sign of customer service next time. Inviting players over then forcing them to pay additional costs just to get a few practice games in here and there seems retarded to me.
Hm I didn't have to pay :D Did I accidentally cheat by just sitting down at working computers in the sc2 area? :D Cause I thought we had that entire area (scene+stuff behind it) to use haha
lol sniped, that is fucked up anyways i would do it on purpose jinro. i would be super angry too especially if i just lost a game or didnt have the chance to warmup which is a huge issues for me
Thanks Pani/Budak/Maven/Mulleboy @ Inferno online for letting me cast the event. Thanks TL.net for helping out promoting the event! Thanks to all you thousands that tuned in to the epic tournament and sorry for the issues. I've learned a lot from this event and will improve cast, technicalities and the viewer interaction until next time. Thanks for the great feedback and I hope you enjoyed the cast. Stay tuned to www.twitter.com/TheBeardTV for more information about the Nordic StarCraft 2 scene and what's going on up here in the north. Expect more to come from me and the Nordic StarCraft 2 community. Thanks again! Rock on! |m|
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