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DeMusliM vs. White-Ra - ESL Go4SC2 Cup #5 Final - Page 6

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Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:34 GMT
#101
On April 13 2010 04:27 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:22 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:19 lolnoty wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:16 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:14 lolnoty wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:11 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.


yes therefore we should go by guilty until proven innocent nice logic


Nice logic to you too. I was only pointing the lack of your logic. Not that he is guilty.


i don't want to type a few paragraphs about how you are using stupid arguments in a thread where it doesn't matter

basically demuslim has a clean history and is a very mannered and serious player, there is no reason to think he suddenly is attempting to sabotage himself in multiple tournaments

anyone that says so either does not know him from before SC or is just looking to stir up shit


I don't think you understand. Your argument was stupid. And I pointed out that it was stupid. Didn't have anything to do with Demuslim.

Doesn't seem like a very mannered player to me.


Look you can PM me if you can't let it go but this isn't a thread for arguing about judicial ideologies.


But you were the one who continued and didn't understand. I can let it go. Watch me.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 12 2010 19:39 GMT
#102
Disappointing games overall...
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
April 12 2010 20:15 GMT
#103
y every game was a rape =(
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 20:20:02
April 12 2010 20:19 GMT
#104
I just join the stream what the score for ra vs demuslim ?

EDIT: nvm this isnt ra as terran XD
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
April 12 2010 20:21 GMT
#105
Yeah i actually got a free upgrade from one of the people form the site. This made me watch the stream because it is pretty hard to watch without the premium one. It is awesome that i got it for free :D
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 12 2010 20:46 GMT
#106
On April 13 2010 04:02 DeMusliM wrote:
Something is wrong with the routing on BNet for me when i play players from Russian/UKR - i don't have any idea what it is or any solution on how to solves it (no LAN play obviously brings problems).

For wc3 BNet (the first version), the UK had similar problems but vs scandinavian countries vs BNet (most of the time players would disconnect) but now it just seems that i'm having troubles with eastern European countries.

Edit:
Just to make the lag issue clear - it starts roughly 1 minute into the game, every time - and gradually gets worse - if you play with any kind of lag what so ever it's gonna throw you off but this is pretty much unplayable. - My screen has roughly 7-10 fps - and spikes ridiculously bad - if i chat it will come up with 2-3 chat lines at a time rather than when i actually finish my sentence. Alot of my actions don't even happen.


what about dimaga games? you voiced no complaints there and you've faced him on two occasions.
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DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 21:12:06
April 12 2010 21:11 GMT
#107
actually i've faced him on 3, and yes each time was fine - Ukr is a big place just so you know.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
April 12 2010 21:14 GMT
#108
Wow, Ukrainian trio doing so well. Basicly lost only to each other. Great job guys I will keep cheering for you!
Shockzor
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation3 Posts
April 12 2010 21:16 GMT
#109
The only way to clear things up is to watch a DeMusliM's side replay
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
April 12 2010 21:24 GMT
#110
On April 13 2010 06:16 Shockzor wrote:
The only way to clear things up is to watch a DeMusliM's side replay


what? dont understand this.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Shockzor
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 21:34:57
April 12 2010 21:31 GMT
#111
On April 13 2010 06:24 AmstAff wrote:

what? dont understand this.


It is easy to determine, what is the source of a lag: pc/internet or imagination... Just watching how the cursor goes

But obviousely it is not connected to the opponent's location - it just dont matter, because THE PLAYER exchenges his traffic with BNET Servers ONLY. so...

DeMusliM, buy a new hardware, install a fresh windows, check your firewalls/AV, kick your ISP but dont blame "Eastern Europe", oh god, please...
Kibou
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3 Posts
April 12 2010 21:35 GMT
#112
wow... everyone is bitter -.-;;

lag or no lag.. i'm sure everyone can agree that demuslim is a good player.. else he wouldn't get this far and wouldn't be so consistent... neways, i doubt people forfeit money tourney's for no reason regardless the score... would u guys?
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
April 12 2010 21:37 GMT
#113
http://www.esl.eu/de/sc2/news/118615#/eu/sc2/go4sc2/cup5/match/18237686/ <- replays
no spoiler on the site T_T
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
April 12 2010 21:39 GMT
#114
If he gets repeatable lag which always starts at the same time vs eastern european players, I'd say this is a bug on blizzard's part. I mean why would he lie and forfait, if this happens (and it's possible) what can he do, it's a shitty situation.

And if there are bugs, the location can matter, all Ukranian games are routed through the same server probably and a glitch can occur just there.
here i am
Shockzor
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation3 Posts
April 12 2010 21:45 GMT
#115
On April 13 2010 06:39 wintergt wrote:
If he gets repeatable lag which always starts at the same time vs eastern european players, I'd say this is a bug on blizzard's part. I mean why would he lie and forfait, if this happens (and it's possible) what can he do, it's a shitty situation.

And if there are bugs, the location can matter, all Ukranian games are routed through the same server probably and a glitch can occur just there.


that would be sad, because blizzard wont get into this :/ a world of electronics (read, internet) is a world where everything is possible, yeah
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
April 12 2010 21:53 GMT
#116
The only proper thing is to give DeMusliM the benefit of the doubt, suggesting otherwise is just -pardon my language- a dick move. I hope you manage to work out your issues man, no one likes seeing forfeits.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 22:45:52
April 12 2010 22:20 GMT
#117
On April 13 2010 04:02 DeMusliM wrote:
now it just seems that i'm having troubles with eastern European countries.

On April 13 2010 06:11 DeMusliM wrote:
actually i've faced him on 3, and yes each time was fine - Ukr is a big place just so you know.

But i believe it is located entirely in eastern europe:D
and for the record i didnt even read a thread so there was no ill intent in my question
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RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
April 12 2010 22:27 GMT
#118
No reason why Ben would ever make this up, Known him for years and he's far from a bad loser or an excuse maker, I'm sure of that, other than that the times I was in UK and played on Bnet i seriously thought it was a joke, I'd have a better connection to US servers from my own home than from the uk to euro server, so seeing him having problems in sc II doesnt surprise me, just hope its fixable ;(), tough luck for the finals, but white ra impressive nevertheless, great player <3 but so is Demuslim
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 12 2010 22:37 GMT
#119
On April 13 2010 06:35 Kibou wrote:
wow... everyone is bitter -.-;;

lag or no lag.. i'm sure everyone can agree that demuslim is a good player.. else he wouldn't get this far and wouldn't be so consistent... neways, i doubt people forfeit money tourney's for no reason regardless the score... would u guys?

Obviously this hasnt anything to do with demuslim but in light of the just uncovered game fixing scandal in progaming this comment is just too ironic to let it slide
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
April 12 2010 22:59 GMT
#120
All islands have notoriously bad routing.
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