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DeMusliM vs. White-Ra - ESL Go4SC2 Cup #5 Final - Page 5

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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#81
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
towelie
Profile Joined January 2006
Germany171 Posts
April 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#82
On April 13 2010 04:07 DeMusliM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:05 YunhOLee wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:02 DeMusliM wrote:
Something is wrong with the routing on BNet for me when i play players from Russian/UKR - i don't have any idea what it is or any solution on how to solves it (no LAN play obviously brings problems).

For wc3 BNet (the first version), the UK had similar problems but vs scandinavian countries vs BNet (most of the time players would disconnect) but now it just seems that i'm having troubles with eastern European countries.


we could trust you a little bit more, if you would talk about the lag in the first few minutes of the game, but lately.. it's always been after you're losing fights that you talk about the "lag" that you're getting.



I tried roughly 5 regames vs Crybaby - and i lagged exactly when the 9th scv popped out, it's exactly the same vs whitera - it's a routing problem.


www.swissvpn.net should fix it
HyTemplar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany265 Posts
April 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#83
brainlag vs. strelok now?
i got no clue where that brainlag comes from
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:10 GMT
#84
On April 13 2010 04:06 DeMusliM wrote:
i lost both games, admittedly which is why i gg'd - but i'm not gonna waste my time playing when it's obviously a problem that can't be solved - it's not fun for me, and it's not fun for the spectators seeing a player not perform his best.


Of course you admit to losing the games. We all saw that happen. But did you lose because of lag or because White-Ra countered you. Now that is the question.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:11:43
April 12 2010 19:10 GMT
#85
well day9 said that since patch7 (or 8?). sc2 has some memory leak issues which can cause serious lag/freezing of the screen after some playing time (depending on pc it never happens, happens after couple of games or even happens in first game after some time).

maybe just try with a laptop/friends pc. if it is routing it should be present from very first second of the game...
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:12:17
April 12 2010 19:11 GMT
#86
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:12:35
April 12 2010 19:11 GMT
#87
do you think i'd really play all day in 2 tournaments, to play vs 2 separate people from the same part of the globe, to lag vs both of them and waste the whole day by forfeiting?
The fact that it's only happened twice, and both games were such important ones - (both with money on the line = important) a semi final of zotac and a final of this, i'm literally pouring with sweat i'm that furious about it.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 12 2010 19:11 GMT
#88
so just so we're clear:
white-ra won?

(cause the current game is strelok vs. cantrememberhisnamerightnow)
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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
April 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#89
or perfect-privacy they have servers all over the world.... dunno if the routing will be better ... but its worth trying
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
HyTemplar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany265 Posts
April 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#90
just got being informed. brainlag is a german noob whos losing now lol
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:14 GMT
#91
On April 13 2010 04:11 DeMusliM wrote:
do you think i'd really play all day in 2 tournaments, to play vs 2 separate people from the same part of the globe, to lag vs both of them and waste the whole day by forfeiting?
The fact that it's only happened twice, and both games were such important ones - (both with money on the line = important) a semi final of zotac and a final of this, i'm literally pouring with sweat i'm that furious about it.


If memory serves, Idra forfeited a pretty important game against Nony.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:14 GMT
#92
On April 13 2010 04:11 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.


yes therefore we should go by guilty until proven innocent nice logic
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:16 GMT
#93
On April 13 2010 04:14 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:11 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.


yes therefore we should go by guilty until proven innocent nice logic


Nice logic to you too. I was only pointing the lack of your logic. Not that he is guilty.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:19 GMT
#94
On April 13 2010 04:16 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:14 lolnoty wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:11 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.


yes therefore we should go by guilty until proven innocent nice logic


Nice logic to you too. I was only pointing the lack of your logic. Not that he is guilty.


i don't want to type a few paragraphs about how you are using stupid arguments in a thread where it doesn't matter

basically demuslim has a clean history and is a very mannered and serious player, there is no reason to think he suddenly is attempting to sabotage himself in multiple tournaments

anyone that says so either does not know him from before SC or is just looking to stir up shit
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
April 12 2010 19:20 GMT
#95
I seriously doubt Demuslim is making things up, seeing as he has very little gain from it.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:22 GMT
#96
On April 13 2010 04:19 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:16 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:14 lolnoty wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:11 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.


yes therefore we should go by guilty until proven innocent nice logic


Nice logic to you too. I was only pointing the lack of your logic. Not that he is guilty.


i don't want to type a few paragraphs about how you are using stupid arguments in a thread where it doesn't matter

basically demuslim has a clean history and is a very mannered and serious player, there is no reason to think he suddenly is attempting to sabotage himself in multiple tournaments

anyone that says so either does not know him from before SC or is just looking to stir up shit


I don't think you understand. Your argument was stupid. And I pointed out that it was stupid. Didn't have anything to do with Demuslim.

Doesn't seem like a very mannered player to me.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
April 12 2010 19:23 GMT
#97
On April 13 2010 04:07 DeMusliM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:05 YunhOLee wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:02 DeMusliM wrote:
Something is wrong with the routing on BNet for me when i play players from Russian/UKR - i don't have any idea what it is or any solution on how to solves it (no LAN play obviously brings problems).

For wc3 BNet (the first version), the UK had similar problems but vs scandinavian countries vs BNet (most of the time players would disconnect) but now it just seems that i'm having troubles with eastern European countries.


we could trust you a little bit more, if you would talk about the lag in the first few minutes of the game, but lately.. it's always been after you're losing fights that you talk about the "lag" that you're getting.



I tried roughly 5 regames vs Crybaby - and i lagged exactly when the 9th scv popped out, it's exactly the same vs whitera - it's a routing problem.


Then why don't you talk about it as soon as it happens instead of waiting to do a big unit fight that will obviously make you lag even more? -_-
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 12 2010 19:27 GMT
#98
On April 13 2010 04:22 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 04:19 lolnoty wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:16 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:14 lolnoty wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:11 Squeegy wrote:
On April 13 2010 04:09 lolnoty wrote:
No one should accuse Demuslim for faking lag... SC plays might not know him but he has a very good track record in wc3.


Yeah. No one also should accuse Korean progamers of cheating. They are very good in Sc after all.


yes therefore we should go by guilty until proven innocent nice logic


Nice logic to you too. I was only pointing the lack of your logic. Not that he is guilty.


i don't want to type a few paragraphs about how you are using stupid arguments in a thread where it doesn't matter

basically demuslim has a clean history and is a very mannered and serious player, there is no reason to think he suddenly is attempting to sabotage himself in multiple tournaments

anyone that says so either does not know him from before SC or is just looking to stir up shit


I don't think you understand. Your argument was stupid. And I pointed out that it was stupid. Didn't have anything to do with Demuslim.

Doesn't seem like a very mannered player to me.


Look you can PM me if you can't let it go but this isn't a thread for arguing about judicial ideologies.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
April 12 2010 19:28 GMT
#99
Thor drops into double expand into Marauder/tank, nice play by terran.
here i am
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
April 12 2010 19:29 GMT
#100
if you rewatch the game, as soon as i killed observer (something that requires a flick reaction, like hotkey->scan) i said "lag". The lag starts as i said, 1 minute into the game, it just goes jumpy and chat goes in stints of every 3 secs. I feel my units warping and certain commands don't react.

As for trying to say "lag" at the right time, i think that's abit of a silly argument you're trying to put forward.
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