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MagicUnicorn
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium47 Posts
March 21 2010 08:27 GMT
#201
forcing colors have been in wc3 for years in esl and i really think you should do that do, nothin bad about it, and no creep like colors please:D
theshin2007
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States133 Posts
March 21 2010 08:46 GMT
#202
just watched, great games.
MagicUnicorn
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium47 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 08:55:05
March 21 2010 08:54 GMT
#203
are there any replays? want to show some great games with nice strats to a friend on my laptop in lessons
(like lucifron vs dimaga round 3 semi finals esl pro invite cup, recommended watch!)
need the last game ofc
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
March 21 2010 09:13 GMT
#204
Haha on game 3 something like :

-What do you think Idra carrier play will be in Sc2?
-Well i certainly agree carrier will be a useful skill toi have

I actually laughed out loud
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
F.A.O.D.
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
100 Posts
March 21 2010 09:14 GMT
#205
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in the third game ive seen that strat before, some guy did it to me in a pvp about 2 weeks ago. i wonder if it was idra on a smurf name
ㅅ_ㅅ;;
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 21 2010 11:08 GMT
#206
Those roach battles on creep are very hard to watch. I'm not sure if it's because of the unit models or because of the pink/purple colors, but it's a bit annoying.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 21 2010 11:17 GMT
#207
oh wow i didn't even notice the new games are up, awesome!
KTY
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
March 21 2010 12:44 GMT
#208
The colors are hard to distinguish already as it is, especially roach/hydra mirror on creep and streamed, the players picking similar colors sure doesn't help.

'twas a good watch though, even if I find ZvZ at this level quite dull
theshin2007
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States133 Posts
March 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#209
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the proxy forge gateway was hilarious.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
March 21 2010 17:24 GMT
#210
Wow... ZvZ is nearly impossible to watch.. its just SOOO cluttered and hard to distinguish colors
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 18:51:33
March 21 2010 18:19 GMT
#211
I didn't have a problem distinguishing them, in game 1 Idra's forces were clearly darker.

Also there's already a button near the minimap that can color the units the standard red and blue, it just doesn't work yet but it will, it'll work like it does in WC3.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
March 21 2010 18:50 GMT
#212
We'll definitely do something about the mirror match colors for next week.
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EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
March 21 2010 19:01 GMT
#213
On March 21 2010 17:00 RatherGood wrote:
Enjoyed the games. I appreciated the improvements each week.

Regarding performance in the game:
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I felt like Machine was screwed a little. He was under the impression that Idra was playing Protoss, so he prepared accordingly. How great is that, he prepares all week so he can put on an entertaining game. So when we find out Idra is playing other races, suddenly all his time, practice, and strategy is greatly diminished. I think in this situation, the audience is mostly at a loss because it makes for a less entertaining game and a less equal game. I think if you want to have your race random, you should have to choose random. Otherwise, select the races you plan to play beforehand so each player can prepare accordingly. It would be like locking in a roster.

Maybe I'm just totally off base here, but I feel predetermined races, like maps, allows players to prepare more and offer more entertaining games. It's just pretty bunk that one person prepared for a style of match up that didn't happen.



It's true, I had been practicing zvp for about a week for the match, and had no Idea until we started the showmatch that he was zerg, while he had been practicing zvz with artosis for the whole week
Ahh well, ill get him next time!
I'm like, the coolest
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 21 2010 19:25 GMT
#214
On March 21 2010 17:00 RatherGood wrote:
Enjoyed the games. I appreciated the improvements each week.

Regarding performance in the game:
+ Show Spoiler +
I felt like Machine was screwed a little. He was under the impression that Idra was playing Protoss, so he prepared accordingly. How great is that, he prepares all week so he can put on an entertaining game. So when we find out Idra is playing other races, suddenly all his time, practice, and strategy is greatly diminished. I think in this situation, the audience is mostly at a loss because it makes for a less entertaining game and a less equal game. I think if you want to have your race random, you should have to choose random. Otherwise, select the races you plan to play beforehand so each player can prepare accordingly. It would be like locking in a roster.

Maybe I'm just totally off base here, but I feel predetermined races, like maps, allows players to prepare more and offer more entertaining games. It's just pretty bunk that one person prepared for a style of match up that didn't happen.


I found the games to be RatherGood.

My favorite series of this tourney.
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Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
March 21 2010 20:21 GMT
#215
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That series was the first where I felt like Korean progaming style training really could make a difference in SC2. IdrA's builds and macro were just more crisp than Machine's and you could tell IdrA has been mass gaming like mad to get everything worked out.
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
March 21 2010 20:32 GMT
#216
In interest of fairness and a better show races should really be fixed in advance. The games could have been better.
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
March 21 2010 21:17 GMT
#217
On March 22 2010 05:32 Squallcloud wrote:
In interest of fairness and a better show races should really be fixed in advance. The games could have been better.


I agree, but I think IdrA might of been upset if I just told him 10 minutes before the match. Might make a decision earlier in the week this time around.
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
March 21 2010 22:44 GMT
#218
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I actually really enjoyed the series even though Idra was a race picker depending on the map.

Also, JP do you really have to try to upset Idra?! Isn't he upset all the time? ;p
caution.slip
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States775 Posts
March 21 2010 22:53 GMT
#219
watching now, is there a way to get higher res than 480p? You can't really read the numbers on the observer tabs at this resolution. Would be great to get higher def if you're going to keep putting these on YT
Live, laugh, love
PainUser
Profile Joined May 2009
United States206 Posts
March 21 2010 23:25 GMT
#220
First off all of this "poor machine he didn't know Idra's race" crap needs to stop right now. In NO way do I think we should even attempt to pass any kind of regulations as to what races players can pick in any specific match. If you have worked your zvz hard and you think it is good enough to win a match vs. a Z main race player and you can pull it off, all the more power to you. I for one have been playing with Idra since the beginning of the beta and he has been playing Protoss almost exclusively. If he decided to pick up zerg for a little bit and train one matchup, and WIN it, all the more power to him.... Are we to say RANDOM isn't allowed? The reason people generally stick to one race is because they are more proficient at it. It is also easier to master all the builds and nuances of one race than all 3.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them you're a mile away and you have their shoes. Playing Protoss is like driving automatic, playing Terran is like driving stick.
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