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[H] (PvP) WTF Nexus rush into recall probe/zealot

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Devaster
Profile Joined June 2018
2 Posts
June 05 2018 22:02 GMT
#1
Hi guys !
Recently I played a game completely wtf !
My opponent make a Nexus next to mine in my base !

I understood that it was to recall all probes and doing a probe rush.
I taked the decision to just follow my build (2 gates Stalker), but i threw the game...

I agree that if i made 2 Adept instead of 2 Stalkers, the game was changed a lot ! But i'm not sure if it's the perfect answer.
I don't know if i have to cancel the second gate and chrono zealot, or attack nexus with probes...

I would like to have yours opinions on this WTF build.
The build is very interesting ! So i think it's cool to share it.
I'm master and my opponent too.

link : https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/7580886

(sorry for my english, i'm not english-speaker)
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
June 05 2018 22:08 GMT
#2
It's not a new build. All you need to do is pull 7-8 probes, chrono a zealot and fully wall your main. As long as you kill the nexus before it finishes you can just chrono warpgate and kill them with stalkers later.
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
June 06 2018 23:35 GMT
#3
On June 06 2018 07:08 ArtyK wrote:
fully wall your main.


Why do you have to full wall the main? Is it so that a second nexus can't be started? I've never faced this before but a full walloff seems a bit overkill. The probe pull makes sense to me though, as does the initial zealot.
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 07 2018 05:52 GMT
#4
On June 06 2018 07:08 ArtyK wrote:
It's not a new build. All you need to do is pull 7-8 probes, chrono a zealot and fully wall your main. As long as you kill the nexus before it finishes you can just chrono warpgate and kill them with stalkers later.


Making a forge and a cannon or two is much cheaper than this lol
Have a nice day ;)
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 08:51:17
June 07 2018 08:48 GMT
#5
On June 07 2018 08:35 yubo56 wrote:
Why do you have to full wall the main? Is it so that a second nexus can't be started? I've never faced this before but a full walloff seems a bit overkill. The probe pull makes sense to me though, as does the initial zealot.

Because once the nexus dies, the only way left for them to win without gas vs stalkers is to rush across the map with everything before you have too many units. If they don't, you can move out when you have 4 stalkers, keep chronoing warpgate and go kill them.

On June 07 2018 14:52 Dumbledore wrote:
Making a forge and a cannon or two is much cheaper than this lol

It isn't. Not mining for a minute with those probes will cost about 450 minerals, but you'll have warpgate on the way and stalkers.
That's the cost of a forge and 2 cannons which would mean no cyber core, and inability to defend both mineral line and pylon powering your wall, which they can easily kill if you have a single cannon defending it.
Killing the nexus is much safer.
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
June 08 2018 05:46 GMT
#6
On June 07 2018 17:48 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 08:35 yubo56 wrote:
Why do you have to full wall the main? Is it so that a second nexus can't be started? I've never faced this before but a full walloff seems a bit overkill. The probe pull makes sense to me though, as does the initial zealot.

Because once the nexus dies, the only way left for them to win without gas vs stalkers is to rush across the map with everything before you have too many units. If they don't, you can move out when you have 4 stalkers, keep chronoing warpgate and go kill them.



Ah yeah makes sense, thanks!
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Devaster
Profile Joined June 2018
2 Posts
June 08 2018 09:29 GMT
#7
I knew it would be interesting to post it here.

Thanks for your replies !
PvP
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada78 Posts
June 09 2018 16:26 GMT
#8
Honestly this "build" is extremely easy to hold, just make zealots and 2-3 shield batteries.
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SMOrangeUtan
Profile Joined May 2018
21 Posts
July 02 2018 16:38 GMT
#9
Killing the nexus is actually the one thing you should not be doing.

He will be building zealots at home and the nexus in your base. You can basically just build a few zealots yourself and yea shield batteries seem like a great idea.

What is his goal? To kill you, what will he do it with with his probes and a few zealots he build prior to the recall.

He can't get any new units if he recalls all he has so you only need to survive. Ignore the nexus get as many units as you can and build a shield battery if you can afford it.

He lacks 400 minerals from building the nexus and another 100 maybe from the probe he sent to build the nexus so as long as you spend your minerals on probes and zealots you should be way ahead.
Thiha4
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March 04 2023 17:13 GMT
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Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
March 05 2023 19:06 GMT
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