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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 17 2013 02:40 Mad Scientists wrote: This is nonsense, terrans dont need help User was warned for this post Yeh because we can all play like Polt and INnovation. just stim and amove and put down mines and look away from your army to go macro. Ezpz win right?  | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
schooooo exchited ^^ P.S. Well done TL Strategy! | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
 ) --> I have a question to ask regardless..Why do you guys say that the Widow-Mines aren't good vs Ling/Bane ??, and say that those are good vs Roaches only ?? Kinda think that the mines are good vs those all, or if anything - maybe weakest vs the Roach, so - the other way round IMO.. Don't get it.. | ||
Naganis
Italy125 Posts
Damn, i want money too. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On August 17 2013 18:06 VArsovskiSC wrote: I just read the guide, and must say it's very well written.. As a fairly weak lower-league player guess won't help me too too much, but I'm a random player that plays fairly equal all the 3 of the races, so pretty sure I'm not biased overall (unless weakening the builds that I lose frustratingly to like some gay all-ins at times ) --> I have a question to ask regardless..Why do you guys say that the Widow-Mines aren't good vs Ling/Bane ??, and say that those are good vs Roaches only ?? Kinda think that the mines are good vs those all, or if anything - maybe weakest vs the Roach, so - the other way round IMO.. Don't get it.. I think you are misunderstanding the context. Mines are great vs everything in a macro game. When the zerg is going for an aggressive all in or attack, mines are only useful vs roaches. If they are doing a ling or bling all-in they can trigger mines with one zergling very easily. This negates the mine at a very minimal cost. | ||
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pwnageoftheyear
United States64 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On August 18 2013 01:24 vaderseven wrote: I think you are misunderstanding the context. Mines are great vs everything in a macro game. When the zerg is going for an aggressive all in or attack, mines are only useful vs roaches. If they are doing a ling or bling all-in they can trigger mines with one zergling very easily. This negates the mine at a very minimal cost. So very true. Took me a while to learn when I see a bust coming I have to lay the mines back behind my wall and bunkers, so when he swarms in thinking he popped my mines that they can go undergroundfuckyouface mode. | ||
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Redrot
United States446 Posts
I'm gonna go cry in a corner now. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On August 18 2013 04:30 Redrot wrote: Whoever decided that writing a guide about Terran BioMine is just a bully. I'm gonna go cry in a corner now. Gimmie ur candy and lunch money before you go crying you nerd. | ||
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Elldar
Sweden287 Posts
On August 17 2013 02:30 Destructicon wrote: Awesome guide, very detailed and in depth, I already had somewhat of a good grasp on TvZ but this filled in a lot of the holes I still had and I'm very thankful for this. I think I have one thing to point out though, it would be appreciated if you add another subtopic in the "Aggressive play" section about 2 base Muta rush. It should be relatively easy to deal with if you add turrets and place mines in strategic locations but it would probably help a lot of people out to know this and know when it is safe to land and secure their 3rd against this option. So true, I play with a 2-base low-eco mutalisk strat against terran because if the terran go expo then hellions the marine count will suffer. Generally terran have like 6 marines when my mutalisk hits (9:00 minute mark, pops at 8:30ish). Many terran even in low-master seem perplexed by this or do not take into account so some write-up about aggressive 2-base mutalisk should be done. One common mistake terran makes is to not build turret/s near their barracks so the mutas can pick of units as they spawn. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On August 18 2013 19:28 Elldar wrote: So true, I play with a 2-base low-eco mutalisk strat against terran because if the terran go expo then hellions the marine count will suffer. Generally terran have like 6 marines when my mutalisk hits (9:00 minute mark, pops at 8:30ish). Many terran even in low-master seem perplexed by this or do not take into account so some write-up about aggressive 2-base mutalisk should be done. One common mistake terran makes is to not build turret/s near their barracks so the mutas can pick of units as they spawn. Yes, exactly this, the 2 base muta style is easily shut down if you build a turret near each mineral line + 1 at the all and 1 near the production facilities, and then put 2 mines near each turret. But this option is still deadly if unscouted and should be included in the guide. | ||
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`dunedain
655 Posts
On August 16 2013 19:38 Damian_SC2 wrote: "The Terran cry for a TL guide has finally been answered"............. Terran cry??? im not happy with that one.... shame on u! Lol, was thinking the same thing. ^_^ Replacing "call" with "cry" would be more appropriate, I reckon. | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
The idea and mindset for this defense is the same as the above. Keep in mind that this will hit a bit later but with more roaches and it is much less all-in for the Zerg. Some Zergs will add in burrow to this attack (both making it more all-in and a bit stronger). Sorry but how does adding burrow make it more all-in? If anything it helps more when going into a longer game surely? | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
As a zerg playing vs marine/tank was easier than playing vs bio/mine | ||
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ReaperStackS
Netherlands41 Posts
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ETisME
12700 Posts
I am trying to get back into the game after 4 months break, and I was just thinking I should try to get both my zerg and Terran back to diamond level. And lol I can't even beat gold leagues terran with my zerg and silver league zerg as terran. Then I read up this build wrote it down and faced a diamond Zerg and beat him while making huge mistakes at the start, losing 2 reapers for nothing I guess playing pure bio mkp style just helps me transition into bio mine style pretty well because of the fast paced micro needed | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
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kinsky
Germany368 Posts
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