EPTMy question is how strong are protoss right now compared to the other races? Are terrans still the strongest race? How are the matchups for protoss?
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kuruptt
Canada168 Posts
My question is how strong are protoss right now compared to the other races? Are terrans still the strongest race? How are the matchups for protoss? | ||
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TokO
Norway577 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:47 kuruptt wrote: Hello, I have recently came back form a long hiatus in sc2. I am thinking of making my switch back to protoss right now from zerg. My question is how strong are protoss right now compared to the other races? Are terrans still the strongest race? How are the matchups for protoss? Most sensible players will agree that there is not really much difference between the strength of the races. However, the more effort and research you put into your race, relatively to your peer players, the better you will do. | ||
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Kinon
Romania207 Posts
Here's the replay: http://drop.sc/354168 | ||
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LeafBlower
United States115 Posts
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1a2a3aPro
Canada227 Posts
On August 12 2013 04:07 1a2a3aPro wrote: Had a question about HotS PvP compositions (I'm a high diamond player): I notice that a lot of players like the immortal zealot archon mix. I think it's really good. I open state's build and use this composition a lot. If your opponent goes straight for col you have some timings when his col count is low, and in the later game tempests are very effective against col. If he goes voids, storm rips them. What happens when both players get this composition, and get up to 4-5 bases? Should you deviate into tempests only if he gets col, should you go col yourself, is this immo zeal archon just a mid game comp? You have enough income and bank and a lot of options available, what's the dream late game comp? I still got no reply on this, if anyone could give me some feedback. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:47 kuruptt wrote: Hello, I have recently came back form a long hiatus in sc2. I am thinking of making my switch back to protoss right now from zerg. My question is how strong are protoss right now compared to the other races? Are terrans still the strongest race? How are the matchups for protoss? Unless you're approaching SC2's skill ceiling where diminishing returns in time invested begin to grow exponentially, somewhere in high GM, the strength of a race is pretty irrelevant when you can simply overcome any imbalance by literally just getting better than your average opponent. You'll enjoy this game much more if you pick a race you enjoy. Not to mention, you could pick the OP race of the month, then have it flip and suddenly you're playing the worst race for the next two years. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
Also where are you keeping your main army, by your third? | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
On August 14 2013 22:42 LeafBlower wrote: Is the best way to handle mutas in mid to late game 3 stargate phoenix + range and eventually getting blink/storm? Sometimes I feel like I have no idea how to counter mass corruptor/muta even if I get a pretty good headstart on phoenix production. It seems like I can never take a 4th or push out while they take the whole map :/. Besides the answer of killing them before they get to a big mass, does anyone have any tips on how to deal with this? I'm guessing I should use my blink stalkers to focus down corruptors when I can while microing phoenixes to specifically attack the mutas? FollowGrubby 5 points 7 hours ago (5|0) It might be.. I used to think 3, now I think 2. Because with 2, you can at least still make blinkstalkers to provide support vs 8+ corruptors, while at the same time having an army that can deal with zerglings & roaches. 2 if your chronoboosting is good, otherwise 3 maybe? EDIT: if you're already on Blink, that is. Don't get reactive blink generally. 2-3 stargate phoenix + range upgrade and just start +1 air attack and shields you need to grab a 4th base asap while doing this just stick to chargelot/phoenix and add on archons and stalkers then you just pin his army while you move across to kill him while you are going towards one of his bases...warp some zealots/dts and have them go to another base mutas are pretty ez for me nowadays | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
I usually have 3 spotter observers: #1 watches the main for drops #2 is on the ledge away from the third/nat, watching the two paths coming from the xel'naga tower #3 is on the ledge away from the nat/main, watching the paths coming straight down/from my fourth base. Hope that makes sense. | ||
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iLevitate
United States225 Posts
I used it and find some success with almost no problem hold 3rd and 4th. | ||
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kuruptt
Canada168 Posts
What are the standard openings for each race now? I'm going to do Rain's 1 gate FE for PvT. I have no idea about the other races. I've heard that PvT is easy for the protoss, is this true? How is PvZ and PvP now? What are the safe openings? User was warned for this post | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On August 15 2013 07:05 Teoita wrote: Yeah you should keep your obs in key locations outside your bases rather than trying to follow his army. I usually have 3 spotter observers: #1 watches the main for drops #2 is on the ledge away from the third/nat, watching the two paths coming from the xel'naga tower #3 is on the ledge away from the nat/main, watching the paths coming straight down/from my fourth base. Hope that makes sense. I tend to keep an obs over the little overlord bitch spot right outside the bar, that's what I was recommending not an obs clicked on their army cuz that'll get taeja'd | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On August 15 2013 07:14 iLevitate wrote: Have anyone try Gate expand ->forge+ 3 gate pressure -> stargate + 4-5 voids -> twilight/another forge-> chargelots/ archon/ ht/ voids combo? ( PvZ) I used it and find some success with almost no problem hold 3rd and 4th. Can you post a replay? I can't see that working against a roach hydra push on your third | ||
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iLevitate
United States225 Posts
On August 15 2013 07:25 mizU wrote: Can you post a replay? I can't see that working against a roach hydra push on your third Yeah sure. 4 replays. http://drop.sc/354203 (win) http://drop.sc/354204( win) http://drop.sc/354205(win) http://drop.sc/354207(different acc + loss) keep in mind that I always forgot to get halluc phoenixes, which caused my lost in the 4th replay. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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bertu
Brazil871 Posts
On August 15 2013 09:24 Sated wrote: Like I said, my build only has 2 Observers before I start making Colossi. As soon as my Colossus Den finishes I need 500 gas (Colossus, Colossus Range, +1 Attack) available and so I literally can't squeeze in another Observer. I would have to delay something and I don't really want that. I'm not sure where you're talking about, though. So hard to describe positions on a map T_T Do you really need colossus range that early? Unless you are going for a 2-base bust, you can usually start range after your second colossus and be fine. This would allow for more obs or maybe a faster cannon to help against drops. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Rickyvalle21
United States320 Posts
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