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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
http://www.sc2win.com/, here are mostly semifinasl/finasl form Go4Sc2 and Zotac for example. But it's still not good enough for me. :D | ||
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BurgerFreak
Denmark37 Posts
Can you please direct me towards some good allin builds? or at least 1base - or 2 base builds that work? People wnana see more 1-2 base builds and aggression and pressure.. So what are the new timings for such builds? heeelp | ||
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A Wild Sosd
Australia421 Posts
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Thewhiteman
France5 Posts
On March 19 2013 18:05 A Wild Sosd wrote: How many gases do you need to for bio-mine? It depends on your build, I play aggressively and I need 6 to tech & constantly produce medivacs | ||
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Swordland
232 Posts
I cannot play ladder lol Im not confident enough because I dont know anything about the new BO in HOTS. Maybe.... TvT: Standard, unchanged, except drops, WM etc. TvZ: Bio + WM and hellbats? TvP: add WM? | ||
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Kayzer.
Germany79 Posts
I generally build my 3rd CC well before 9 mins but I'm always very afraid of leaving my base, especially if the opponent is going ling/bling/muta. I theoretically know how to handle it (depot wall, drops, threaten attack, turrets, spread tanks/mines), but in an actual game i would just to prefer to sit at 2 bases forever :p. In general, I would like to be much more aggressive and active with drops but again, leaving the base vs Zerg is scary! Those run-by's are painful and you can't protect everything wirh turrets... I would appreciate it, if someone could show me some Recent TvZ games that involve strong pressure/ timing pushes.(watched MLG but.. I'm not flash... I usually get punished real hard if I play that greedy early game. For the record, I'm low diamond right now. I also hate (pure) mech play. Thanks in advance for any answers! | ||
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Pookie Monster
United States303 Posts
On March 19 2013 20:49 Kayzer. wrote: How do I safely establish my 3rd base vs Zerg? I generally build my 3rd CC well before 9 mins but I'm always very afraid of leaving my base, especially if the opponent is going ling/bling/muta. I theoretically know how to handle it (depot wall, drops, threaten attack, turrets, spread tanks/mines), but in an actual game i would just to prefer to sit at 2 bases forever :p. In general, I would like to be much more aggressive and active with drops but again, leaving the base vs Zerg is scary! Those run-by's are painful and you can't protect everything wirh turrets... I would appreciate it, if someone could show me some Recent TvZ games that involve strong pressure/ timing pushes.(watched MLG but.. I'm not flash... I usually get punished real hard if I play that greedy early game. For the record, I'm low diamond right now. I also hate (pure) mech play. Thanks in advance for any answers! Even against muta ling the terrans at MLG were doing work with multi pronged emergency afterburner drops. this makes the zerg scared to leave HIS base. | ||
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xongnox
540 Posts
On March 19 2013 21:00 Pookie Monster wrote: Even against muta ling the terrans at MLG were doing work with multi pronged emergency afterburner drops. this makes the zerg scared to leave HIS base. But without good reaction time you just free loose your drops vs 1a muta, so i would not advise it below mid masters. Btw it was not the case at all with Flash vs Life. If zerg keeps up with terran multi-task and had a good ovie spread, then he should handle it rather easy. I would only advise to multi-drop a gling/muta player only on certain timings (juste before mutas pop..) and situations ( want him go back at home to had a clear path of attack, without counter-attack risks; or you are in a dominant position and he is mainly worried by your main amry, etc. ) | ||
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zlate
Sweden1 Post
In the game he had 16 swarmhosts backed up by 4 vipers and 25 roach/hydra. I tryed to brute force that with my Marines and a few marauders but did not go well, even tryed to add battlehellions. | ||
Snoodles
401 Posts
For one rax reaper into hellion harass into marine tank, after your first rax and reapers, is it better to expo before factory or factory before expo? Also, do you take your second gas after making your first factory? | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On March 19 2013 22:35 Snoodles wrote: Hello. For one rax reaper into hellion harass into marine tank, after your first rax and reapers, is it better to expo before factory or factory before expo? Also, do you take your second gas after making your first factory? I dont know the "actual" build but when i go reaper opening i make CC->fac->2nd ref | ||
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larrybyerly
United States6 Posts
On March 19 2013 07:38 Spoink wrote: I mostly time it with some sort of Stim Timing (~10mins). As far as the engagements goes i stim ->attack move and try to burrow them near the Zerg army while we are fighting. Another way i like to engage is to attack the third and kinda try to secure my army with burrowing Mines behind my army. A little example sorry its not that good but i did it on my laptop^^ http://imgur.com/ktWYg7g Hope you see what i mean.  totally! thanks alot for the help! | ||
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KillAudio
1364 Posts
And any thoughts in what I should transition in if that fails or makes a good amount of damage? Follow up question: do you guys still use tanks in TvZ? or is MMM + hellbats better? | ||
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Bulugulu
Israel250 Posts
On March 19 2013 23:58 KillAudio wrote: Is proxy barracks into marauder a good counter against 1 rax reaper? And any thoughts in what I should transition in if that fails or makes a good amount of damage? Follow up question: do you guys still use tanks in TvZ? or is MMM + hellbats better? 1) Yes, proxy marauder is a very good opener vs any reaper opener. As evidenced in game 2 of flash vs innovation in mlg. However, it's not a direct counter - you'll need a good deal of micro and multitasking to win the game. How to transition is up to you, most people will probably go for a mech transition or the original cloak banshee followup into mech. 2) Most people use bio widowmine at the moment, but bio tank is still viable. Tanks are better at defending allins now because you don't have to research siege mode. Tanks are probably better vs certain compositions(roaches hydra) while widow mines/hellbats are better versus others(ling baneling). At this point everyone are still experimenting and figuring it out. | ||
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Spoink
Austria150 Posts
On March 19 2013 18:05 A Wild Sosd wrote: How many gases do you need to for bio-mine? I usually take as many as i can since i go very Medivac heavy. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On March 19 2013 08:12 Thieving Magpie wrote: TvP Question - Platinum Terran I find that unless I start a bunker a little after 4:00 minutes, the 2 stalker 1 mothership core poke kills me. When scouting with my SCV--what is the tell that lets me know that this poke isn't coming allowing me to cheat and skip the bunker? 6-7 Marines with micro should be enough to deal with this. You can rule out the poke (or at least the fast variants) if he opens 1 gas. Otherwise, your scouting SCV might be able to see the particular Nexus animation showing he's building a MSC. On March 19 2013 16:15 Everlong wrote: How is it possible we still don't have anything similar to Zerg's Primer and Pro Q&A? Is this community really that Zerg centric? Why do you think we had to endure 10 months of Lings of Liberty? In all seriousness, Ver was actually the one who opened the first Pro Q&A for Terrans (for WoL obviously). For the rest, I see no point in trying to write something when the game is 1 week old (or 1 month if you include the last version of the Beta) and so much remains unclear/unknown. On March 19 2013 16:55 ambra wrote: I see a lot of cc first builds: I didnt play hots much yet (about 20 games between gold and plat while trying to get back to diamond), but isnt the early game very vulnerable to 3rax all-ins or attacks +1 marines with 3 or 4 tanks, while you are still getting your tech going? In TvT, CC first is primarily unsafe because of the threat of proxy Reapers or Marauders. 3 rax all-ins don't exist in TvT outside of low leagues. On March 19 2013 17:02 r_con wrote: can i get some damned replays Ive been searching everywhere for some good terran replays and i can't find a good place to watch them. I thought MLG would release replays but apparently they don't do that anymore. Anyone have some. I need to steal some damned builds as im lost in all match ups. On March 19 2013 20:16 Swordland wrote: The game is still new. However, is there at least a decent opening/strategy for each match up? Read Asha`'s post. On March 19 2013 17:06 Everlong wrote: There seems to be lack of replays overall for Sc2. Like, I don't know, it seems that because of streams and vods, tournament organizers don't care about replays anymore. I remember I used to download every major tournament replays from WC3 and then just go through it to find out results. It was such cool and entertaining. I really think SC2 is lacking here. Indeed, this is quite infuriating. It would be nice if someone could organize some kind of #releasereplays! e-riot. On March 19 2013 18:05 A Wild Sosd wrote: How many gases do you need to for bio-mine? 6. You tend to bank gas in the later stages of the game if constant action occurs though. Can be good for a Raven transition, can be bad if you die with 2k+ gas. Depending on how the game is going you can probably pull some SCVs off the gas at some point. On March 19 2013 20:49 Kayzer. wrote: How do I safely establish my 3rd base vs Zerg? Keep at least 6 Hellions alive and burrow some Mines in front of your bases. On March 19 2013 22:07 zlate wrote: I just played a zerg that used swarmhost and was wondering how you guys deal with them ? In the game he had 16 swarmhosts backed up by 4 vipers and 25 roach/hydra. I tryed to brute force that with my Marines and a few marauders but did not go well, even tryed to add battlehellions. Tanks or circumvent, but if he managed to get 16 Swarmhosts against bio you probably did something wrong. On March 19 2013 22:35 Snoodles wrote: Hello. For one rax reaper into hellion harass into marine tank, after your first rax and reapers, is it better to expo before factory or factory before expo? Also, do you take your second gas after making your first factory? Expand before Factory. Timing of the second gas depends on the match-up and your transition. On March 19 2013 23:58 KillAudio wrote: Is proxy barracks into marauder a good counter against 1 rax reaper? Yes, assuming good micro from your part this is virtually a (blind) build order win. See Bogus vs Flash, Cloud Kingdom, MLG as pointed out by Bulugulu. His answer to your second question is also correct. | ||
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Juice!
Belgium295 Posts
So, here we go: 1. I am a reall fan of bio play (hence the reason i switch from wol zerg to hots terran) but on a saturated base how many rax/starport are ideal? At the moment i go with 3 rax (2techlab, 1 reactor) and 1 starport with reactor per base i have. 2. my current T vs P/Z build is 1 rax expand (no gas) into 3 rax into 6 rax, 2 starport (3rax-1starport/base). Now i do the 12 rax 15 cc and when my cc is done i just add 2 raxes. But I never really know, when to start adding gas for addons etc. When is the best time (or just general idea) to add gas? 3. TvT i still go bio from time to time (same build as in question 2), but i try mech also. With this i wonder, when you are turtling etc (when do you really try to push?) when you are maxed etc on so many bases and whatnot, when do you really start transitioning into air? 4. Concering bio heavy play, what are good maps to veto? at the moment i have only veto'ed neo planet s because i just don't like the map in general. 5. i just remembered my 5th question ^^ In TvZ when i go rax expand, most of the times the Z takes a 3rd base. I have no clue how to deny or haras that, since i only have 1rax and some in the making. If i just let him and get my own 6 rax etc he just rolls over me with superior economy How can you deal with this? Thank you for reading ! any advice is welcome! | ||
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yrral10
United States1 Post
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On March 20 2013 01:26 Juice! wrote: I'm new to terran and have some (noob) questions if you don't mind So, here we go: 1. I am a reall fan of bio play (hence the reason i switch from wol zerg to hots terran) but on a saturated base how many rax/starport are ideal? At the moment i go with 3 rax (2techlab, 1 reactor) and 1 starport with reactor per base i have. 2. my current T vs P/Z build is 1 rax expand (no gas) into 3 rax into 6 rax, 2 starport (3rax-1starport/base). Now i do the 12 rax 15 cc and when my cc is done i just add 2 raxes. But I never really know, when to start adding gas for addons etc. When is the best time (or just general idea) to add gas? 3. TvT i still go bio from time to time (same build as in question 2), but i try mech also. With this i wonder, when you are turtling etc (when do you really try to push?) when you are maxed etc on so many bases and whatnot, when do you really start transitioning into air? 4. Concering bio heavy play, what are good maps to veto? at the moment i have only veto'ed neo planet s because i just don't like the map in general. 5. i just remembered my 5th question ^^ In TvZ when i go rax expand, most of the times the Z takes a 3rd base. I have no clue how to deny or haras that, since i only have 1rax and some in the making. If i just let him and get my own 6 rax etc he just rolls over me with superior economy How can you deal with this? Thank you for reading ! any advice is welcome! 1. Check the OP in the Terran Help Me Thread. 2. Bin gasless openings, there is much better to do with Reapers (to scout and pressure) and/or Mines (to defend Oracles). By the way rax 2 and 3 should be started as soon as you can afford them, not once the CC is done. The old TvP build order was 1 rax CC rax rax gas gas lab stim fact EB gas port reactor reactor lab. 1 rax CC → 3 rax was extinct in TvZ post-Queen patch. For the new HotS build orders, see Asha`'s post linked in my post above. 3. Complicated. Generally you push when you're near max with 15-20 Tanks. Air transitions occur when you're on 4+ bases. 4. All maps are fine for bio, only mech got the short end of the stick with Akilon Wastes being the only heaven in a desert of awkward and/or open thirds (Bel'shir Vestige and Daybreak are decent though). 5. Open with at least one Reaper to prevent the Drone from easily reaching the third before Metabolic boost is done, then get 6 Hellions and 2 Mines so Zerg cannot comfortably start mining at his third without first challenging your contain. Play some kind of triple OC opening to keep up in economy. On March 20 2013 01:43 yrral10 wrote: In TvZ, what is the fastest way to counter a swarm host rush? I tried to scan them and attack with bio ball but those locusts are crucial. Define "Swarmhost rush" (what timing?) and give your league and build order. On March 20 2013 01:54 Shikyo wrote: TvZ, what's the best way to follow up a 12rax Reaper with if you're planning on going into 3 Orbitals and reactor hellions into bio? How many Reapers should be made in general? Is it safe to go for a third CC off the single proxy rax? At what time do you get the second gas? Thanks alot~ One possibility is Reaper X CC fact reactor CC lab gas stim. X can be a second Reaper or a Marine. If the rax is in your base you make 1 or 2 Reapers, if it's proxied you make 4 (lift rax after). Yes you can triple OC: CC fact (or the reverse depending on Zerg's answer) mine bunk reactor CC. The Bunker can be built lowground, in a corner at your natural, or behind your wall, again depending on Zerg's reaction. Same for the Reactor on the Factory by the way, you need to be sure he's not going for a Baneling bust before building it. From the last MLG you can check Last vs Life, Akilon Wastes and Newkirk City; Polt vs Life, Akilon Wastes; and Last vs Killer, Akilon Wastes (it was 11 rax 11 gas but transition is still relevant). Second gas should be around the time you make your third CC. Yesterday Aristeo went some early Roaches against my proxy reaper rax, in this case you need a Banshee to break the contain in front of your ramp, so you get a Starport and possibly an earlier second gas. | ||
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