• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:42
CEST 18:42
KST 01:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL55Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?13FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event19Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? PiG Sty Festival #5: Playoffs Preview + Groups Recap The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Korean Starcraft League Week 77 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL Replays question Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 622 users

The Space Whales Solution to TvZ (WIP) - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
WhalesFromSpace
Profile Joined March 2012
390 Posts
July 13 2012 06:08 GMT
#61
On July 13 2012 12:47 Digamma wrote:
i dont think this will work on any map with a close third. like with the game on cloud kingdom he simply moved the queens over and you had to back off. maybe on like shakuras when the queen takes forever to walk over then yes it can deny the third and make the reapers worth the massive amount of gas you spent on it.. i dont think this can hold a 8 minute roach ling bane bust though.


You can tank up to 3 queens while you target down a hatch, if your reaper count is 8+. Just cycle them in/out of medivac or pull-back micro. This is fine for cloud kingdom.
Nihility
Toastie.NL
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands232 Posts
July 13 2012 07:47 GMT
#62
I feel the building attack is what nullifies spines in this situation: the healing in HotS (isnt speed removed too?) wont help goo much as it is out of combat only. Thus, hots nerfs this strat but buffs low reaper count strats
EU Random Player - Contact me for anything :-)!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
July 13 2012 09:11 GMT
#63
Very cool. I'm not currently playing, but I will certinally try when I get back to it. I like styles that are similar to this.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
iNViCiOUZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 09:26:02
July 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#64
I played that strat a view times, yesterday!
It is insane how fast 8 reapers kill a hatch. With the medivacs you can just ignore the queens and get all reapers out.
Also reapers in a bunker are not too bad against roaches.

But don't attack 2 queens with transfuse...

Really like that reaper play, thanks for that guide!
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
July 13 2012 11:33 GMT
#65
brilliant guide, the video is great too, love Animals as Leaders =]
savior & jaedong
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
July 13 2012 11:46 GMT
#66
Nice to see this instead of the usual balance complain ^^
Superb thread.
Chicken gank op
Noak
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden84 Posts
July 13 2012 11:51 GMT
#67
Now please make a template that is easy to use for other people that want to make guides and i bet we'll be seeing a lot more quality guides here!

Awesome work man
Asolmanx
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy141 Posts
July 13 2012 12:34 GMT
#68
If this strat becomes popular Blizzard my rethink the HOTS changes to the reaper
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
July 13 2012 15:18 GMT
#69
Good lord you can load 6 reapers in a medivac...
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Nizes
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland27 Posts
July 13 2012 19:09 GMT
#70
This is totally awesome guide. I mainly play toss at low level but i will ask my master terran friend to try this out.
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
July 13 2012 19:23 GMT
#71
On July 14 2012 00:18 Spec wrote:
Good lord you can load 6 reapers in a medivac...

8
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
July 13 2012 19:44 GMT
#72
You sir, are awesome, great guide, nice video/good editing, and most of all, Animals as Leaders, nice to hear some good music . Time to go make some reapers. thanks friend.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Aoxer
Profile Joined June 2012
44 Posts
July 13 2012 20:09 GMT
#73
On July 14 2012 04:23 Plague1503 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:18 Spec wrote:
Good lord you can load 6 reapers in a medivac...

8


this, I was like wtf, that's awesome...

time for some reaper drops for hatchery sniping and incorporting their epic deeps into my late game army
"No amout of macro will make marines beat banelings"
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
July 13 2012 20:22 GMT
#74
On July 14 2012 05:09 Aoxer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 04:23 Plague1503 wrote:
On July 14 2012 00:18 Spec wrote:
Good lord you can load 6 reapers in a medivac...

8


this, I was like wtf, that's awesome...

time for some reaper drops for hatchery sniping and incorporting their epic deeps into my late game army

Most expensive thing to lose, like ever. 100/100, and 400/400 for reapers lol 500/500. That's a bruuuuuuuuuuutal loss. I'm a reaper guy in TvT, and losing a medvac with reapers makes my heart sink.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
July 13 2012 20:22 GMT
#75
On July 13 2012 11:50 cristo1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:26 Belial88 wrote:
I can't wait until HOTS makes the building attack useless. so imba ;/

What can a zerg do against this OP? I feel like roaches would be the only way to not lose, right?


but in hots they regenerate health themselves which makes its in some ways even scarier


I'd much rather deal with regenerating reapers than reapers that have building attack...

OP, how do you beat this please. Because this always destroys me.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
dohgg
Profile Joined February 2011
310 Posts
July 13 2012 22:18 GMT
#76
Defensive roaches..
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
July 14 2012 08:18 GMT
#77
On July 14 2012 07:18 dohgg wrote:
Defensive roaches..

You would need a lot of them to cover all angles of 3 bases, at least 3 per base at the very minimum if the Terran has bad control, but if he has good control you would need 4 or more, thus keeping the Zerg from getting 3 bases off of only queens, and the Terran still has map control.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
WhalesFromSpace
Profile Joined March 2012
390 Posts
July 14 2012 08:35 GMT
#78
I actually ran into some trouble vs a large pack of speedlings, and sufficient scouting to cut off attack paths into the zerg territory. I still won the game but it was due to outplaying the Zerg later on. This was on Cloud Kingdom; I was constantly forced to pick up and leave. I'll upload a replay later once I have a few more
Nihility
Alaiz
Profile Joined November 2011
France118 Posts
July 14 2012 08:37 GMT
#79
Damn, that's a great and innovative idea! I never thought about that and i find it mind blowing that none of the progamers have thought about this, or play with it ! Great ideas sir !
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 09:32:06
July 14 2012 09:31 GMT
#80
On July 14 2012 17:35 WhalesFromSpace wrote:
I actually ran into some trouble vs a large pack of speedlings, and sufficient scouting to cut off attack paths into the zerg territory. I still won the game but it was due to outplaying the Zerg later on. This was on Cloud Kingdom; I was constantly forced to pick up and leave. I'll upload a replay later once I have a few more

Yeah, this is true, but a zerg forced to make that many lings will not be happy with their economy. Most of the time they can just baneling all-in you from there, though, so forcing all those lings isn't the best when it can be so hard to hold.

This build would be great for Bo3 matches where your opponent is only good at doing 3 hatch gasless (or ice fisher) styles, though.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
FEL
16:00
Cracov 2025: Qualifier #1
RotterdaM181
IndyStarCraft 178
CranKy Ducklings158
Liquipedia
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:55
FSL team league: ASP vs PTB
Freeedom12
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 286
IndyStarCraft 178
RotterdaM 148
SC2Nice 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7247
Horang2 2484
Bisu 1123
Jaedong 946
Flash 854
Larva 657
Mini 606
firebathero 465
BeSt 352
actioN 271
[ Show more ]
Hyun 153
Mind 78
GoRush 62
sSak 43
Rock 29
TY 23
zelot 22
Counter-Strike
fl0m874
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor622
Other Games
Gorgc3686
FrodaN1505
Mlord471
Lowko311
Fuzer 268
Hui .206
TKL 143
KnowMe133
Trikslyr77
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1326
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 47
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2834
• WagamamaTV675
• Ler64
League of Legends
• Nemesis8381
Other Games
• Shiphtur334
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
17h 18m
Clem vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
FEL
19h 18m
WardiTV European League
19h 18m
BSL: ProLeague
1d 1h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
FEL
6 days
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2v2 Season 3
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.