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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
September 21 2012 01:13 GMT
#181
lol I just 6 rax now.

These zergies have no idea how fucking hard a 6 rax +1 armor (two techlab and 4 reactors) hits at 10 minutes and I see them doing all kinds of weird shit to hold it off.

For the record, I bring about 10 scvs with me. I abuse hold position.
Stop procrastinating
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
September 21 2012 02:36 GMT
#182
I have always bio only in tvz, in all matchups really, but im starting to love tanks...i feel its the terran's trademark unit. So, while bio only may be good, i think its slowly becoming not so viable in tvz....its just so satisfying to see those infestors being shot down by powerful tank rounds and seeing those banelings splash thanks to your tanks lol
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
September 30 2012 18:21 GMT
#183
sorry for the late response but if you have trouble please post replays so i can have a look.

I was really busys last 2 months with study and university and stuff and will be next 2 weeks but plan to to be more active afterwards. sorry for the long time of none-responding.
Let's learn together!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12498 Posts
October 06 2012 16:04 GMT
#184
just out of interest, any update to this build or does it still work fine?
would also love to have some new replay if possible.
the videos were great help btw
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
October 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#185
What are your thoughts on including bf hellions or thors? I know It's not bio, but it let's you win some straight up fights
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
October 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#186
@ ETisME:

1) The Build works still fine no so no updates
2) New Replays may come in a few weeks, i had to take a break cause of university and now getting into sc2 again

@ 9-BiT:

It depends on your personal playstyle. I think that bf hellions can sometimes be worth it, especially vs a very ling focused player but they really cut into your early/midgame dps as marines do better there, especially before the bf is started. With the way the build works you could get bf after the medivacs and that may not be worth it. You can adjust to your personal prefrence there.

Thros on the other side are very expencive and after your bio gets cleaned up they are easily picked apart by zerglings.
Let's learn together!
StateofReverie
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States633 Posts
October 06 2012 19:14 GMT
#187
My last ladder session I was toying around with reactor hellion expand into banshees and then into bio.....works wonders haha fuck the siege tanks!

To be fair though a couple weeks ago I was practicing a 3oc siege tank expand....i like siege tanks too
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
October 06 2012 19:58 GMT
#188
I just uploaded a new Guide to how defend early zergling agression. Everyone who understands german should be very happy about it and all others could maybe learn something out of the video as well even if you do not understand what i am saying.



Hope you enjoy
Let's learn together!
antz0r
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia168 Posts
October 07 2012 08:41 GMT
#189
I've been playing around with this build and it's unnaturally strong. It propelled me from mid gold to high platinum and now I'm facing diamonds every now and then.

Before this, I was basically losing EVERY TvZ in the lategame because I never knew how to apply pressure in the early and mid game.
svikter
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden13 Posts
October 07 2012 19:10 GMT
#190
thanks for the tips. ty to u im going straight up towards high master<3
stockholm
buchaa
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Pakistan77 Posts
October 07 2012 23:40 GMT
#191
I've usually do the 4 rax (with the 1 rax fe) opener to be aggressive in the tvz matchup that taeja popularized, which was of course marine focused, and the first movement was around 7.10-7.30ish. with medics coming in at 9.30. But this seems equally as interesting. Love the naked rax idea to wall off rather than depots. I'll be sure to try this soon.
BoxeR, Michael Schumacher, Michael Jordan (Legends never get old)
danteafk
Profile Joined May 2011
307 Posts
October 07 2012 23:48 GMT
#192
do you actually go and attack with @ 70% Combat Shield, move out with Marines ?

or when the first attack happens? here? @ 2 Medivacs -> Push out and take Third
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
October 08 2012 13:58 GMT
#193
You move out when Combat Shield is Around 70% done, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less, depending on the walk-distance to yours oponnent third. Also you do not move out if there is no third in sight.

The Medivac Push is the second push and it is highly adviced to move out right when you start the medivacs so that you can join the army with the medivacs half way cross map and attack as early as possible with them. The early you get there the better off you are. That's why the crisp opening is so important cause if you are behind like 1-2 minutes with your medivacs and therefore the push you will straight up lose the engagement cause zergs production capacity is too high.
Let's learn together!
buchaa
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Pakistan77 Posts
October 08 2012 20:34 GMT
#194
Ok thanks a lot for this... I'm only platinum as of now. But this build is freakin awesome... It simply kills the platinum and diamond zerg foolproof 5 matches.

I love how you've given all sorts of options in the mid and late game describing what one should do in case of baneling busts or 2 base roach all-ins.

Thanks again.
BoxeR, Michael Schumacher, Michael Jordan (Legends never get old)
SCRedditor
Profile Joined October 2012
United States57 Posts
October 09 2012 03:35 GMT
#195
I have a question. If the CS timing does no damage except for killing lings then are you behind?
Thanks to those that support me. For those that don't like me, please PM me. I always wish to kiss ass.
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 16:40:34
October 10 2012 16:40 GMT
#196
It highly depends on how much lings you can kill!

If you get just surrounded by speedlings then you were just not careful enough, even though you should have had scouted a gas opening!

If you get sourrounded that way in the open you are most definitly a bit behind and you must be very careful with your medivacs cause they will be banelings ready waiting.

But normally you should be very careful when scouting gas opening and not getting crushed like that.

If you socut a gasless opening you have to improve your micro if you still trade badly vs slow lings cause they are no threat even with queen support or sth like that. You can also always retreat of creep away from queens etc. and kite the slowlings to death.

tl:tr
Be extra carefil vs gas openings and do not even move out if you do not scout a third by the time your cs is about 70% done. Vs gaseless opening you should be able to trade even if you stutterstep correctly.
Let's learn together!
life617
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
October 18 2012 17:45 GMT
#197
Anyone have a demonstration on how to properly micro bio vs infestor ling bling?
iamhope
Profile Joined September 2010
Afghanistan51 Posts
October 18 2012 20:39 GMT
#198
just spread before..

do pre-splits, put marauders in front, and u're absolutely fine!!

If you have enough skill, after the pre-split, you can focus infestors with your marauders.. that's essential after a few battles, so the zerg player can't accumulate infestors... he will have to spend gas in new infestors the whole time.. so you will have bigger window before ultras/brood lords...

gl
yae
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
October 18 2012 21:16 GMT
#199
On October 19 2012 05:39 iamhope wrote:
just spread before..

do pre-splits, put marauders in front, and u're absolutely fine!!

If you have enough skill, after the pre-split, you can focus infestors with your marauders.. that's essential after a few battles, so the zerg player can't accumulate infestors... he will have to spend gas in new infestors the whole time.. so you will have bigger window before ultras/brood lords...

gl


this

also a good trick is to poke with 5-6 units + a medivac at a time, stim them in and attack to bait fungals etc while splitting your army into smaller groups at the back. it's always better to lay out a concave and force him to attack into it than to stim your entire army offensively.

abuse hold position. if you can MAKE him attack into a field of splitted marines and marauders with vac support, his infestors will be useless, his lings will be greatly reduced in effectivity and his blings will have a much harder time getting good hits. also his ultras' splash will be diminished

If he gets BLs out, you need vikings to do this, or he'll poke you to death.
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