EPT[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 33
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On July 06 2012 07:47 JaKaTaK wrote: I hope that we are allowed more customization in Legacy of the Void. I don't think that we'll get double click function and the like in a customizable way in HotS. Either Blizz assumed that nobody would ever want to change the function of the shift, ctrl, and alt keys, or they purposefully limited hotkey customization so it wouldn't be incredibly broken. Probably the former. It would be REALLY awesome if they allowed ctrl and alt to be used in conjunction with any other key for any command, though. There's a chance we could see that if this thread gets some attention from Blizz... which is unlikely. But you never know. Alternatively, Blizz seeing this thread might cue them to limit hotkey customization further.  *Shrugs* Guess we'll have to wait and see. | ||
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Pheint
United States73 Posts
On July 06 2012 07:47 JaKaTaK wrote: I hope that we are allowed more customization in Legacy of the Void. I don't think that we'll get double click function and the like in a customizable way in HotS. Banking that it's too late to add this feature into HotS? I feel like this could be a patchable feature as well. BTW I made a thread about this in /r/starcraft if you guys would like to upvote for visibility. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On July 06 2012 09:52 Pheint wrote: Banking that it's too late to add this feature into HotS? I feel like this could be a patchable feature as well. BTW I made a thread about this in /r/starcraft if you guys would like to upvote for visibility. I believe there is already a Reddit thread for the Core, made by Jak. I wouldn't know, though. I really don't like Reddit. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 06 2012 08:44 Antylamon wrote: It would be REALLY awesome if they allowed ctrl and alt to be used in conjunction with any other key for any command, though. There's a chance we could see that if this thread gets some attention from Blizz... which is unlikely. But you never know. Well, you can for most things, just not things that appear on the command card. Things such as as Base Cam Cycle, Idle Workers, anything else, really, can be assigned to combinations. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On July 06 2012 14:32 Kaitlin wrote: Well, you can for most things, just not things that appear on the command card. Things such as as Base Cam Cycle, Idle Workers, anything else, really, can be assigned to combinations. That's the main problem, unfortunately. Jak was complaining about HotS since Zerg needs 11 abilities due to larvae, so I did some brainstorming and came up with the idea of using ctrl in conjunction with some ability buttons. It didn't work, of course. | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
I can't find the reddit thread, what is the title?? I've made many reddit posts for the show, but only a few specifically for the hotkey layout. streaming changes and tests as well as replay analysis now: http://www.twitch.tv/thejakatak | ||
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theolysis
United States107 Posts
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wc4482
United States45 Posts
On July 07 2012 14:30 theolysis wrote: I'm having an issue with the layered cameras. They work fine for a game or two, and then they stop working so that when I try to recall a camera it behaves the same as ctrl+key. If I exit the program and start it again the cameras work again for a game or two. Any thoughts on how to fix this? I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and using a Zowie Celeritas keyboard, and I'm using ZRM 0.3. Does it recall camera and set control group or does it just set control group? | ||
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theolysis
United States107 Posts
On July 07 2012 15:51 wc4482 wrote: Does it recall camera and set control group or does it just set control group? It will not recall the camera and only set the control group or use the ability assigned to that key. | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
I have no idea why that would be happening. Make sure you are trying to recall a camera that has been set! Also make sure you are pressing Ctrl+shift before you presss POIJ or ; | ||
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
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Bananenbaum
Germany18 Posts
 EDIT: @JaKaTak: you may want to add this to the OP since this question has been asked rather frequently. | ||
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Cheshyr
United States78 Posts
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TheAngryZergling
United States387 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:27 TheAngryZergling wrote: I'm wondering, how certain are you that the layout is "generally" settled or could you see drastic changes still in store. By drastic changes I mean changing the entire base hand position (away from jiop) If a quantum improbability screws up Jak's mind, sure why not. Honestly though, this isn't going to be an issue. The first step in making this layout was to find the area on the keyboard which allowed for the most easily available keys, while still having access to shift, because shift-clicking cannot be changed. ...or changing the keys for control groups or camera locations or changing the majority of unit production keys (rather than just a handful)? The way the layout is set up, this is entirely possible, yet an overhaul in this area is very very unlikely before HotS comes out (Mostly Z will be affected, however I don't even know if T and P will be affected at all). Jak has a section of his development spreadsheet which shows the list of most accessible keys on the layout based on a penalty system which takes every hand restraint into account. Everything is based on this list. When HotS comes out, that's when Jak has to make a decision about how often Defilers and Lurkers will be used. If Jak decides they aren't used often, they could be placed on g and y, changing none of the control groups. If he decides they are, then the majority of the control groups might be bumped up two levels, changing a LOT. Again, that situation is unlikely. Mostly cameras would likely be affected. Or, he could wait until the metagame shifts away from experimentation with new units. Either that or after the first major HotS tournament with replays available occurs. I don't even know if the release of HotS will change anything as much as you are saying, though. On one hand it makes Z have 11 (!!) abilities due to larvae, but on the other hand it might not be as much of an issue as it seems. It might not be an issue at all. LotV, on the other hand, will do some damage if it brings in two more new zerg units available from larvae, bumping it to 13. | ||
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
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asdir
Germany39 Posts
On July 09 2012 22:49 Bananenbaum wrote: I just found a way to set the base cameras eventhogh "alt" cencters on your current selection: you can have nothing selected by deselecting the only thing you have selected via shift-click and then pressing "alt" won't move your screen, so you can move the camera (use the minimap) to the bases you will take and set the base cameras. EDIT: @JaKaTak: you may want to add this to the OP since this question has been asked rather frequently. Thanks for this. I was wondering if there was a way to hotkey my natural location at the start of the game like I did with darkgrid. | ||
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theolysis
United States107 Posts
On July 08 2012 01:58 JaKaTaK wrote: @theolysis I have no idea why that would be happening. Make sure you are trying to recall a camera that has been set! Also make sure you are pressing Ctrl+shift before you presss POIJ or ; I am doing all this correctly, but after a couple of games I'll be using the layered inject method and all of a sudden, halfway through my hatches, the cameras will stop recalling. I also disabled all programs running in the background to see if they could be causing the problem, but the problem persisted. If anybody has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it! | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
You are awesome! FAQ edited! Concerning the concern of the ever-evolving developing and upgrading of TheCore. Each edit has gotten smaller since 0.2. Since that time there has been 0.3, 0.3.1, and 0.3.2 which was just released. To give you an idea of what we're optimizing at this point... TheCore 0.3.2 is released!!! -High Templar and Sentry abilities improved! -Hallucination priority applied to all layouts (no random keys for hallucinate probe) So at this point we're down to the fine details. If something new comes to our attention that we didn't know before, there could be major changes, but at this point, its unlikely that that would happen. Streaming live now if you have any questions: http://www.twitch.tv/thejakatak | ||
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