EPT[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 32
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maLaK1
Germany124 Posts
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
On July 03 2012 22:32 maLaK1 wrote: what is the reason for moving upgrade hatch > lair > hive away from I? So you don't accidentally upgrade it if you are spam-producing units and have no larva. A lot of other keys were changed for the same reason. | ||
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Jabax
Norway3 Posts
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wc4482
United States45 Posts
On July 03 2012 20:43 Phatency wrote: Here is (hopefully) the full list of key changes for 0.3: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArSoDiKab2yCdGpzdXFHS0lzYU1VY054cTdaX0Nyd1E Do note that if any keys seem to be unbound in that generated document, it likely means they are the same as in the blizzard standard layout. (they aren't saved in hotkey files if that's the case) Thanks for the changelog. I really think zrmm needs to be fixed. Specially the ability research on the hatchery. keys like v and 5 are set up for zrmm, which are hard to reach for right handed players. Notice differences between zrm and zrmm. I think zrm is fine but zrmm accidentally got some left handed keys thrown in. Take a look at the data document to see what I mean | ||
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
On July 04 2012 02:06 Jabax wrote: Big Thanks to the core team for all the hard work that is being put in to the new layout. I just downloaded the Nordic prm 0.3 file and tested it with a norwegian keyboard. Most of the binds seem to work well, however there are a few things i am a bit confused about. I noticed that in the layout file i downoaded cancel is bound to f8, and if I am reading the data document correctly it is supposed to be bound to f7. Though i do think it makes more sense to have cancel on f8. I also noticed that the button between the norwegian "æ" button and the enter button doesn't seem to be bound to anything. I think that on nordic keyboards the row with the j, k and l buttons has one more button than us keyboards. you kan see it in this picture: http://www.irontech.no/interface/tastatur_interface/Irontech_Norsk_kbd.jpg. Maybe something should be bound to this button in the nordic versions of the layout. Thanks for trying out the norwegian layout! Good to hear it works. Be especially sure that those norwegian buttons are correct (and not swapped or something). Yes, we have an extra button in that row. I could of course make my layout converter bind it to something, but I'm not sure what that something would be. We also have an extra button on the left side of the keyboard (<>|), and Latin American keyboards have a whole 2 extra buttons on the right side. Personally I'm using the extra key for "Center on selection". Randomly selecting something to be bound to the extra keys is highly against the design philosophy of The Core though. Binds should always be backed up by data. Regarding the F8/F7 issue, I'll let Jakatak answer that one. | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
I'll check for those accidental lefty keys, sorry about that. Sometimes it gets lysdexic when i am doing the layouts. I fix, I fix. I'm just starting to learn about Microsoft IME. If you could give some suggestions that would help make this layout work better for IME users, it would be very helpful and appreciated. As far as having extra bindings for those extra keys on different keyboards... I don't have the time to optimize with them, but feel free to use them for things that you want to use them for, just make sure its easier/faster to press that key than the one the command you are switching is currently on, or you'll actually be making things harder on yourself. tiny little update: Fungal Growth and Infested Terran have been switched to make the unburrow+fungal combo faster and easier. EDIT: didn't work. Looking for more solutions. I will fix these issues and re-upload the fixed files. EDIT: Live fixes/question answering happening now! http://www.twitch.tv/thejakatak We want a count of the number of people actively testing the Beta for TheCore: | ||
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Thehummel
Denmark122 Posts
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ellaguru
United States35 Posts
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:19 Thehummel wrote: Was the Nordic version deleted from the main Page? Can only see the German on It wasn't. It's roughly in the middle of the OP, under the caption "For Non-USA Keyboard Users" @JaKaTaK It might be confusing to have two separate spoiler-tags for non-US keyboards. | ||
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Tarqon
Netherlands27 Posts
On July 03 2012 20:48 Phatency wrote: It shouldn't be unbound. Are you sure you didn't unbind it while making the changes? UpgradeToWarpGate/Gateway=I Strange. It is in the file but ingame the hotkey display lists it under unbound. | ||
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
On July 04 2012 23:50 Tarqon wrote: Strange. It is in the file but ingame the hotkey display lists it under unbound. Are you sure it wasn't actually the morph to gateway hotkey? I know that some hotkeys are currently unbound in the Nordic layouts. Those keys are at the other side of the keyboard in the US version (basically out of the way (not meant to be pressed)). I might bind them to Numpad9 or something in the different language versions so they don't show up as unbound. Actually I'll go ahead and do just that today. Edit: Thanks a lot for that, while fixing unbound keys I realized the base camera key was missing in all Nordic lefty layouts! Sorry lefties (again). Nordic lefties can either update or make the change themselves: Just bind base camera to the §-key. Nordic righties can update if they suffer from OCD and can't stand unbound keys they are never going to use. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/TheCore0.3Nordic.zip | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
There is now 1 section for non-US keyboards (it is directly below the spoiler flowchart to choose your layout) @ellaguru I'll look into some solutions. It may just be that you need to practice with the layout more. Anyone else having these issues 50+ games into the layout? | ||
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/TheCore0.3Latin.zip | ||
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Pheint
United States73 Posts
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Phatency
Finland38 Posts
On July 05 2012 14:55 Pheint wrote: So I'm trying to do my own hotkey layout, and in the process I noticed something. It seems that "shift" is the default queueing hotkey. What I mean by this is that it's shift that enables things to be queued (movement, build commands), but there doesn't seem to be an option to change this. Am I wrong? Because I would LOVE to be able to change it to caps lock. Afaik you can't change it with the hotkey editor. You could use a program such as Sharpkeys to completely remap shift to capslock (and vise versa, if you want to). However, this will affect all other programs too and isn't tournament safe. | ||
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Pheint
United States73 Posts
On July 05 2012 17:50 Phatency wrote: Afaik you can't change it with the hotkey editor. You could use a program such as Sharpkeys to completely remap shift to capslock (and vise versa, if you want to). However, this will affect all other programs too and isn't tournament safe. Yeah I was debating doing this, but the only reason I didn't was I wasn't sure if it would be fine for me to do this in MLG Raleigh. Do they have rules against sharpkeys and such? | ||
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:41 Pheint wrote: Yeah I was debating doing this, but the only reason I didn't was I wasn't sure if it would be fine for me to do this in MLG Raleigh. Do they have rules against sharpkeys and such? of course they do, its not allowed | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 05 2012 14:55 Pheint wrote: So I'm trying to do my own hotkey layout, and in the process I noticed something. It seems that "shift" is the default queueing hotkey. What I mean by this is that it's shift that enables things to be queued (movement, build commands), but there doesn't seem to be an option to change this. Am I wrong? Because I would LOVE to be able to change it to caps lock. The queueing of actions can't be changed from Shift, just as the 'double-click' is inherent to Control. You can use drivers or third party software to make Caps Lock appear as Shift inside the game, but there is no way to assign the queue behavior to Caps Lock, while still having the game recognize Caps Lock as Caps Lock. The game would think you're hitting Shift. I hope that clarifies. | ||
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Pheint
United States73 Posts
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