[G] TheCore Lite - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 6

On May 02 2012 19:28 Tobberoth wrote:
Using mouse buttons is actually faster (you can click a mouse button with one hand and press the keyboard with the other faster than doing both actions on just the keyboard) so I think it's misguided to try to make the case that this is more effective than darkgrid because this doesn't use the mouse, when it's technically the other way around.

On May 02 2012 20:16 c_kAelle wrote:
what do you think about jakatak, about the grid layout like stephano uses?

On May 02 2012 20:46 Mesha wrote:
I see you put a lot of effort in this and you believe its something great. I respect you for that and wish all the best.
But i am little confused. How is this better from for example grid hotkey setup? It's still ton of effort to learn (get used to it) everything, especially if i understood well, you plan on helping noobs. They can go either way to learn their hotkeys - it's still massive amount of time needed to get used to it. I think Stephano uses grid, and its efficient as hell, if i were starting all over again i would defenitely start with grid hotkey setup. Also i have to be honest, i don't really understand the whole thing about customizing hotkeys and just how efficient it is and how much it's better from regular hotkey setups. So i won't claim this is nonsense just because i don't get it. ^_^

GL with your project.

On May 02 2012 20:56 niks2 wrote:
I've been playing with grid but have been looking for an easier way to control group my army. I will definitely play around with this for a couple of weeks, looks like great work, will return if i run into problems/have questions. Thanks in advance though!

On May 02 2012 21:30 Akinokaze wrote:
This looks really nice, gonna give it a go with some slight changes (mouse side button for base cam, caps for idle worker and F1-F6 for screen locations).

On May 02 2012 23:11 leo23 wrote:
jakatak i would like to congratulate you for making this wonderful post. i am a high masters zerg and as reach the higher levels of the ladder i realize that my hotkeys are not as efficient as they could be.

as of now my setup is
1. ground
2. infestors
3. bl
4. queens
5. hatches

and the backspace inject trick (change base camera to space)

it doesn't give me much harass options or control groups to deal with drops so i find myself defending these manually which ultimately loses me some precious time like you mentioned.

when i see your guide and see 8 controls group for army that are easily accessible i drool because that would open so many options.

i have one problem though and it may be because im fucking stupid but... how do i start editing everything? i mean i get the gist of the process but i would appreciate it if you could send me a pm of what keys do i change exactly to what.

thanks a lot man and i appreciate your effort

edit: oh and i also use f1-f4 keys for camera

downloading the doc whoops

On May 03 2012 02:51 098799 wrote:
Go go man, we're looking forward to your big project

On May 03 2012 03:22 Pabs wrote:
Wow, grats on working hard saving money to work on a life goal. I as well plan to live off of savings soon so I can dedicate as much time as I like to gaming. So far I bought a house and rented out the extra rooms. I got less than a year left of 70 hour work weeks. Soon I'll install the solar panels for free power and refinance so the renters cover my expenses. I will look up your show. I apreciate dedicated people with good attitudes.

On May 03 2012 04:17 Th1rdEye wrote:
I see what you're doing here, but honestly why would anyone who's been practicing their mechanics a certain way for over two years now want to change to something like this?

I have never felt "Damn I'm not fast enough at hitting that key"

Not to mention the 10 years of broodwar with standard hotkey placement and 1a/ctrl clicking as normal

On May 03 2012 04:21 TheFish7 wrote:
This is a really, really good idea. the problem for existing players is re-learning the muscle memory, but you have a good idea with coaching new people. What you need is like a 15 year old who has gaming experience and a really strong drive, then you teach him like Mr miyagi.

Good luck

On May 03 2012 03:25 JaKaTaK wrote:


Shift clicking scvs and probes back to mine is deep in my blood, It almost never happens that I forget it because its such a habit for me. I am sure that i forget sometimes, but I can't think of a time off the top of my head.

You could keep it at F1, I'm working on incorporating it now that I know it is useful. I think N or H might be better options. But then again, I'm working on a big issue with zergs accidentally making extra queens and getting upgrades they don't want to get. (Zerg is definitely the biggest pain in the ass for hotkeys) and may want to use N, H and 6 to solve that.

What do you think is faster F1 or N or H?

On May 03 2012 10:29 Akamu wrote:


I changed it back to F1 because that's what i'm used to. And considering this is only my second day playing with it i've already gotten very very used to it. It just makes sense (to me) the way all the hotkeys flow together. I especially like the reusing of the A key. So easy to hit.

I feel like given another week ill be 100% comfortable. I would say i'm 85% right now but given i've mostly played diamond to gold opponents i haven't really felt pressured. If i were to play someone of similiar skill i think i may get a little overwhelmed. I'm gonna keep grinding games and post back later. But right now i give this a big thumbs up and can definitely see the benefits of this setup.

On May 02 2012 14:02 NrGmonk wrote:
Tagged and changed title.

On May 02 2012 07:29 achristes wrote:
Idk mang, looks really hard to get used to so I'll stick with my modified Standard setup.

On May 03 2012 11:53 Epishade wrote:


I am in the same boat with you. I've also got my modified setup that works kinda well for me but has its drawbacks. But I just don't ever have the incentive to switch over to better control scheme. That being said, I love looking over new and different hotkey setups like Darkgrid and this.

On May 03 2012 11:47 Kaitlin wrote:
G - Guide
L - Low Level
H - Help
D - Discussion
Q - Question
among others

also, to avoid future warnings for excessive posts (lol), I suggest while editing a particular post, right click the 'quote' link of the post you want to quote so it opens in another window, and copy / paste it into your working post. Repeat as necessary, until TL gets a multiple quote feature up in here.

edit:

Also, I wanted to point out that you can use the side mouse buttons without using drivers or third party software. Starcraft 2 sees them as Mouse Forward Button and Mouse Back Button.