EPTInfested Terran trick. By using mousewheel - Page 6
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Dvriel
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
I'd say just let it be and see what happens. | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
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Philipd122
Australia776 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:03 Dvriel wrote: Can anybody help me? I do snipe pretty bad.When use Shift+R+click,ghosts do it too slow,because they seem to reload,and when do it only pressing R+click on target,there are many times i click twice on target son ghosts stop sniping.Is there a way to do it better or its all question of practice??? It's buggy so the best possible way is to put ghosts into a hotkey -> spam R + left click on units. It's very hard at first but it takes practice, queueing snipes isn't as smooth as queueing storms for some reason. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
I call hax! | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:13 Angel_ wrote: Wouldn't this fall under some tournaments rules about Macro Keys? i wouldnt think so it is just rebinding hotkeys to your mouse. | ||
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Inty
United States99 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:03 Dvriel wrote: Can anybody help me? I do snipe pretty bad.When use Shift+R+click,ghosts do it too slow,because they seem to reload,and when do it only pressing R+click on target,there are many times i click twice on target son ghosts stop sniping.Is there a way to do it better or its all question of practice??? If you make the ghost hold fire before doing Shift+R+click it works better but its still a little weird. Try it out on a unit test map and see how it works you just have to be a little careful with them because they won't be auto attacking. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:52 DarKcS wrote: Because in-game demos record script commands, macros are easily identifiable in most FPS games. Blink hack (800APM) bots are the only thing in SC2 for example that are noticeable. As a developer, if you want to stop someone spamming a command 800 times in one second, you don't start writing exemptions and anti-cheat protocols for many different possibilities of executing that command, you simply set a rate limit on the original command to prevent it. Every thread 'OH MY GOD ITS ILLEGAL BAN THEM, DONT BAN THEM ,BAN THEM' is just completely irrelevant. Either the developer care enough to limit abuse, or leave it as is, the community has absolutely no say apart from bringing the issue to light. you are completely right, this isn't something blizzard can ban but this is something the community can. If it requires a 3rd party program to make this work, then this will never be allowed in LAN tournaments. Once you eliminate LAN, then soon the pros won't play online against a suspected user in tournaments and the community follows. | ||
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:56 Doomtrain2 wrote: Ok u ppl dont seem to read it. BUT in the vid he has 13 ghosts. Each one snipes one time, together dealing 500 damage (+35 overkill). Now try it with 7 there IS a COOLDOWN on snipe! For you easier: Do one ghost with 200 energy on one zealot. Clrealy like(!) 0.5s cooldown. So a cooldown nerf would not deal anything in this matter to snipe as there already is a cooldown. Good point. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Dvriel
607 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:20 Inty wrote: If you make the ghost hold fire before doing Shift+R+click it works better but its still a little weird. Try it out on a unit test map and see how it works you just have to be a little careful with them because they won't be auto attacking. Thanks very much man! Really help a lot by Hold Fire.For some reason if not they do weird thing and start shooting in "normal mode".It works much better if they dont attack,althought the ghosts out of range wait for the first line to go out of energy.As someone wrote,Storm does work much easier... | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:18 avilo wrote: I'm pretty sure this will be 100% allowed. Do people seriously think blizzard are going to ban you or MLG or any serious tournament is going to ban all mice from being used during tournaments? Because that's what you'd have to do, you'd basically have to ban any mouse that has a driver...so yeah...ban all razer mice from tourneys and other non-sense? It's a 1:1 keybind, it's legal. I'm interested how many people will start utilizing this, seems like a good idea  !The program that has been linked in the OP is not a device driver; it is a third-party software program that allows you to remap your mouse buttons. The Starcraft 2 End User License Agreement does not allow the use of unauthorized third-party software. Also, if you look in your Starcraft 2 Hotkey list, it does not allow you to rebind any mouse buttons (at least, not on my mouse), therefore, necessitates the use of a third-party program in order to bind the click command to the mouse wheel. Again, unauthorized third-party software is against the SC2 End User License Agreement. I imagine that major LAN tournaments would not allow you to install a third-party program onto their computer in order to gain an edge. | ||
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CortoMontez
Australia608 Posts
Obviously this will be somewhat difficult to enforce for online tournaments, but upon review I think that 20k APM will be somewhat suspicious. | ||
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Doomtrain2
Germany45 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:39 CortoMontez wrote: I know that in many FPS tournaments binding scroll wheels to fire is banned because it turns semi-auto guns into full auto guns. Based on this, I wouldn't be surprised if tournaments started banning scroll wheel binds. Obviously this will be somewhat difficult to enforce for online tournaments, but upon review I think that 20k APM will be somewhat suspicious. 20k is only reached with stupid settings. You can setup your mouse wheel speed. I can do it for 1 speed up to 8 speed. So one scroll means 1 click. up to 8 clicks. Scrolling maybe 3 times with speed 3. means 9 snipes which is pretty good and will by far not mean 20k apm. With low settings you have the advantage and still normal apm - max 1000 ^^ the problem with too low settings is: only for warp ins: they get spread too far. you need a speed like 4 so that the units stand in a row after warping in. Btw: All tried the last minutes. On February 06 2012 18:39 wongfeihung wrote: The program that has been linked in the OP is not a device driver; it is a third-party software program that allows you to remap your mouse buttons. The Starcraft 2 End User License Agreement does not allow the use of unauthorized third-party software. [...]. But there are advice drivers that let you do this stuff. So ban the players who use the 3. party software and don't ban the ones who use their advice driver? &:-O | ||
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
...abuse for ALL the abilities!!! instant chain-warp in from 20 gates is nice to have, instant feedback on whole army too... transfuse... ...bind to rightclick for 300 apm | ||
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Selendis
Australia509 Posts
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Doomtrain2
Germany45 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:48 SamsLiST wrote: this is soo broken -.- ...abuse for ALL the abilities!!! instant chain-warp in from 20 gates is nice to have, instant feedback on whole army too... transfuse... ...bind to rightclick for 300 apm this got already removed from the list of viable abilities. The only useable are listed on the first page... feedback: you would feedback on 0 energy... WHy would you want to feedback several times?? Second: Try this first. It is not as easy to move your mouse in the speed that you scroll your wheel - there will be many overkill-feedbacks. | ||
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