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cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#281
Seems green as grass to me, nothing to see here move along...
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Aletheia27
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States267 Posts
February 06 2012 21:17 GMT
#282
am I the only zerg player thinking this is awesome?
Right click + mutas hm.....
I am that I am
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
February 06 2012 21:26 GMT
#283
This seems to be a pretty good anti mothership technique. Now we surround the vortex with 80 infested terran really quickly.
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FaKeSC2
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany78 Posts
February 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#284
The problem with that is, that if Blizzard puts a higher cooldown on snipe, every terran will HAVE TO use that scroll method in order to still use snipe. Someone who doesnt use this method will have kinda useless ghosts if they get a higher cooldown.

Maybe it isn't a hack legally. But it has the same effect as a hack. It will totally break the game. Just banning it from tourneys would also suck because you can't just abandon any kind of online play such as ladder, weekly cups, online qualifiers, etc..
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
February 06 2012 21:32 GMT
#285
On February 07 2012 06:28 FaKeSC2 wrote:
The problem with that is, that if Blizzard puts a higher cooldown on snipe, every terran will HAVE TO use that scroll method in order to still use snipe. Someone who doesnt use this method will have kinda useless ghosts if they get a higher cooldown.

Maybe it isn't a hack legally. But it has the same effect as a hack. It will totally break the game. Just banning it from tourneys would also suck because you can't just abandon any kind of online play such as ladder, weekly cups, online qualifiers, etc..


not necessarily.
if they nerf the cooldown to a speed that only the fastest click spamming could accomodate, it would be a level playing field
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 06 2012 21:32 GMT
#286
The amount of people who think a CD on snipe will resolve the problem is hilarious.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 06 2012 21:36 GMT
#287
hahahaha oh man this is sweeet! i love bugs!
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 06 2012 21:41 GMT
#288
On February 07 2012 06:08 DeltruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:03 goswser wrote:
On February 07 2012 05:53 zmansman17 wrote:
On February 07 2012 05:25 Kukaracha wrote:
I find that this insanely favours high-level Terrans. :p
Ghosts are already amazing, now BLs are a non-issue, and so are Ultras.


This is a classic example of an overgenerlization. The ghosts do not receive more energy from using this method, and may even waste snipes using this method as the snipes occur ALL AT ONCE.

In the video, 5 ghosts were used to snipe the ultralisk but this was the perfect amount TO KILL the ultralisk. The usual method would not waste any snipes. The adjusted method would waste snipe energy and so you would still have to micro the right amount of ghosts using this method.

This is a classic example of not knowing what your talking about. This way doesn't waste any snipes, you don't have to micro it right. Even with scroll wheel they are not cast all at once, they are just cast quickly one after the other. As soon as the unit being sniped dies, ghosts aren't using extra energy. For example, if you have 20 ghosts and scroll wheel snipe an ultra its not like 20 snipes or 40 snipes or whatever will just happen, the number that will happen is the exact number needed to kill everything you spam scroll wheel on.


I believe you misunderstand him. It takes 11 snipes to do 495 damage vs an ultralisk. That means the 12th snipe has 40 wasted damage. It is best to just let the ghost attack once rather than use that last snipe.


You can't do that without breaking the shift queue, since fast-snipe requires the ghosts to be on hold-fire mode. If not, an attack command gets in the queue and you have to click manually again.

Out of 11 ghosts, one snipe lost per ultralisk is a small price to pay to kill every single one of them before they actually reach your army.

You also forget that Marauders or Tanks or Marines are likely to be shooting at the Ultra, dealing those 45 points of damage anyway.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
FaKeSC2
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany78 Posts
February 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#289
On February 07 2012 06:32 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:28 FaKeSC2 wrote:
The problem with that is, that if Blizzard puts a higher cooldown on snipe, every terran will HAVE TO use that scroll method in order to still use snipe. Someone who doesnt use this method will have kinda useless ghosts if they get a higher cooldown.

Maybe it isn't a hack legally. But it has the same effect as a hack. It will totally break the game. Just banning it from tourneys would also suck because you can't just abandon any kind of online play such as ladder, weekly cups, online qualifiers, etc..


not necessarily.
if they nerf the cooldown to a speed that only the fastest click spamming could accomodate, it would be a level playing field


So then every gold player would have the same speed by scrolling his wheel as the pro who trains weeks and months and years to get the fastest possible sniping? Doesn't sound fair to me. If this stays legal/allowed/whatever, everyone will use it in order to have an equal playing field. And that sucks because you shouldn't require third party programs and some weird game settings in order to play the game.
chestnutcc
Profile Joined July 2011
India429 Posts
February 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#290
For Christ's sake: Scroll jumping was never banned in CS! Duck jumping was a bug in the game engine, which was also later exploited to be able to jump from any height and take no damage. You didn't need to scroll to do it, you could do it by tapping too.

Other uses(?): Mineral stacking, just bind the up key to right click
Worker harass: If you drop zealots into a mineral line, you can quickly shift click all the scvs to prevent the zealots from wandering away to nearby queens, spines, marines etc
Gravitron Beam
Queuing attack move commands or patrol movements (I find this an easier way than using the minimap and mouse scrolling about the screen)
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
February 06 2012 21:44 GMT
#291
That's quite interesting, thank you for the info.
I got five reasons for you to shut up
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 06 2012 21:51 GMT
#292
i'm not sure i understand this, but if you rebind the left click to scroll doesn't that mess with just normal mouse clicking?
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 06 2012 21:56 GMT
#293
Guys guys, lets just ask blizzard in an email if this is legal.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
GoatSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden63 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 21:59:01
February 06 2012 21:57 GMT
#294
I just tried this in a unit tester map, and then checked the replay. 3 - 8 000 apm as I spam up Infested Terrans. It's just not humanly possible to do without this thing, and I consider it a cheat for sure. As such, I won't use it.

Same thing for snipe really. When I face Terrans in the lategame I usually Transfuse my Broodlords, now it'll be almost impossible to do versus someone who uses this. >_>

I also tried with Feedback vs my friend stacking up Banshees, just for fun. 200/200 Banshee disappeared in a matter of seconds. We had a good laugh about it, but still, I consider it cheating to use on the ladder etc.
Never stop fighting!
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
February 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#295
There´s nothing to see here except more Zergs talking about how terran is Overpowered ... This is not game-breaking and probably lots of players already use it ..

As for the Zerg i have one thing to say , if you say Terran is Overpowered is SC2 , in BW terran is mega-mega-mega overpowered right? tanks with crazy range , a only mineral unit that as 3 free mines and a Raven that is actually usefull ?

Zergs all call this unbalanced when they can also send like 50 infested terran instant and do 20k apm...

They should also nerf the human brain so players dont think when they play

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FaKeSC2
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 22:00:39
February 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#296
On February 07 2012 06:58 tapk69 wrote:
There´s nothing to see here except more Zergs talking about how terran is Overpowered ... This is not game-breaking and probably lots of players already use it ..

As for the Zerg i have one thing to say , if you say Terran is Overpowered is SC2 , in BW terran is mega-mega-mega overpowered right? tanks with crazy range , a only mineral unit that as 3 free mines and a Raven that is actually usefull ?

Zergs all call this unbalanced when they can also send like 50 infested terran instant and do 20k apm...

They should also nerf the human brain so players dont think when they play


I'm masters terran and I consider this totally game breaking. It should be considered cheating.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#297
On February 07 2012 06:51 IMoperator wrote:
i'm not sure i understand this, but if you rebind the left click to scroll doesn't that mess with just normal mouse clicking?

Can someone please answer? -_-
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#298
On February 07 2012 06:58 tapk69 wrote:
There´s nothing to see here except more Zergs talking about how terran is Overpowered ... This is not game-breaking and probably lots of players already use it ..

As for the Zerg i have one thing to say , if you say Terran is Overpowered is SC2 , in BW terran is mega-mega-mega overpowered right? tanks with crazy range , a only mineral unit that as 3 free mines and a Raven that is actually usefull ?

Zergs all call this unbalanced when they can also send like 50 infested terran instant and do 20k apm...

They should also nerf the human brain so players dont think when they play


No one was seriously talking about terran balance until you came in.

I play terran and I consider that this cheat (because 8000 APM isn't normal) favours the Terran the most.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Kloster
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark19 Posts
February 06 2012 22:03 GMT
#299
On February 07 2012 07:01 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:51 IMoperator wrote:
i'm not sure i understand this, but if you rebind the left click to scroll doesn't that mess with just normal mouse clicking?

Can someone please answer? -_-


No it will not. The scroll will simple work as a extra key.
kindle139
Profile Joined September 2010
United States128 Posts
February 06 2012 22:05 GMT
#300
since you can't do this in-game without some third party software, it is obviously an unintended consequence and exploitative
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