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[Q] APM efficicent ways to spread creep?

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Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
January 28 2012 03:25 GMT
#1
Is there an easier way someone has figured out? Im a diamond Zerg and I feel like I'm dragging ass when I spread creep.

I typically save camera location and box and spread.

Any tips?

Thanks guys.
boobalotcha
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada54 Posts
January 28 2012 03:27 GMT
#2
you can hotkey the active tumor. save one or two clicks/button presses
.maLice.
Profile Joined December 2011
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 03:29:30
January 28 2012 03:28 GMT
#3
Diamond zerg here. What I generally do is ctrl+click a creep tumor, then c+click,c+click,etc. This seems to be about as fast as possible, or the fastest way that I can do it anyway. Not sure if there is a more efficient way though.

I also just click on the mini map, since it is about as easy/fast for me to do that than it is to use a control group for just creep tumors.
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
January 28 2012 03:29 GMT
#4
Thanks for the tips guys.

OzkanTheFlip
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
January 28 2012 03:57 GMT
#5
the cooldown is 30 sec, so i just fell into habit just as i did with injects, whenever you inject also spread creep
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
January 28 2012 04:02 GMT
#6
control click tumors and c+shift+spam
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Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 04:12:55
January 28 2012 04:11 GMT
#7
I like to hotkey the new active tumors as I spread them because I like to check the hotkey for when the CD is up to spread the new ones as soon as I can. Tumor CD is shorter than inject so only refreshing along with inject usually means you are missing tumors. If you are hitting creep tumors on every cd it spreads insanely fast.


On January 28 2012 12:57 OzkanTheFlip wrote:
the cooldown is 30 sec, so i just fell into habit just as i did with injects, whenever you inject also spread creep


Pretty sure that isn't correct, tumor and spawn larvae have same energy cost build up for queen but the tumor itself only has a 15 second CD I believe.
AbeToss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States60 Posts
January 28 2012 04:23 GMT
#8
This isn't a tip to save APM but if you're looking to spread creep faster (and as fast as physically possible), use an overlord to spread creep ahead of your tumors. Since creep tumors cooldown faster than the full spread of creep is acheived, having creep from your overlord already in place will allow you to place you tumors that much farther ahead. This is obviously more APM intensive (but perhaps could end up in a better creep/APM ratio?). Just thought I'd share.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 28 2012 04:27 GMT
#9
easy way to spread creep faster is to do other things faster so u have more time to spread creep.
figure out optimal hotkeys for hatch/queen/army and get all ur timings down for upgrades and overlords (spreading too) so u dont have to waste apm inefficiently constantly checking etc
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Msrobinson
Profile Joined October 2010
United States138 Posts
January 28 2012 04:30 GMT
#10
On January 28 2012 13:11 Nibbler89 wrote:

Pretty sure that isn't correct, tumor and spawn larvae have same energy cost build up for queen but the tumor itself only has a 15 second CD I believe.


It takes time first for the creep tumor to be laid and turn invisible, and then more time to actually be able to be spawned into a 2nd. 30 seconds is accurate.
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pollisand
Profile Joined January 2011
United States35 Posts
January 28 2012 04:33 GMT
#11
In my experience the time it takes for larva rounds is a good time to spread creep. It won't get you the most tumors but they advance a good distance before you spread so your coverage is still pretty solid. This is also handy because your creep queens will have energy for new tumors after every larva round always.
JagerGard
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden135 Posts
January 28 2012 04:34 GMT
#12
u spread like idra, or u spread like nub, thats life
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zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
January 28 2012 05:07 GMT
#13
It's kind of like Math. Either you get it or you don't. Personally, I just remember to click on the outer edges of my creep on my minimap almost as soon as when they come up; it's just pure memory. Creep has always personally been my best mechanic.. It just comes down to remembering to check your tumors.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 05:18:51
January 28 2012 05:17 GMT
#14
On January 28 2012 13:30 Msrobinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:11 Nibbler89 wrote:

Pretty sure that isn't correct, tumor and spawn larvae have same energy cost build up for queen but the tumor itself only has a 15 second CD I believe.


It takes time first for the creep tumor to be laid and turn invisible, and then more time to actually be able to be spawned into a 2nd. 30 seconds is accurate.


Just tested in game, not accurate. It takes 40 seconds for spawn larvae to spawn creep tumor is 15 seconds build +15 second cd so its 30 seconds. So a 10 second difference which is actually pretty significant. after 120 seconds you should have 4 tumors if you do it on every inject you'd only have 3, as the game goes on especially vs T this will add up, as it makes it easier for them to clear your creep spread. Obviously most people's tumor / injects won't be optimal anyways, just saying that it's not ideal and not insignificant difference.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
January 28 2012 05:19 GMT
#15
On January 28 2012 14:07 zakmaa wrote:
It's kind of like Math. Either you get it or you don't. Personally, I just remember to click on the outer edges of my creep on my minimap almost as soon as when they come up; it's just pure memory. Creep has always personally been my best mechanic.. It just comes down to remembering to check your tumors.


This. If anyone notices asymmetric or darkly colored tumors, contact a medical professional. Don't let yourself be a victim of one of the most predictable cancers. Seriously...

Also, if you can tie creep spreading to your inject timings that is best imo
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Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
January 28 2012 05:28 GMT
#16
What I do it box all of the tumors, hit 'c', hold 'shift' then spam click where you want them to go. It's hard to get used to, but it's not bad once you've done it a while. I'm also a Diamond Zerg, so YOU CAN DO IT!

Also, if you're having trouble remembering, just constantly check the mini-map, when you see that the creep is extended decently far beyond the tumors, make sure to spread them.
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
January 28 2012 05:29 GMT
#17
On January 28 2012 13:34 JagerGard wrote:
u spread like idra, or u spread like nub, thats life


IdrA's got nothing on HayprO in the Creep Spread department.
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K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 28 2012 05:46 GMT
#18
Most efficient way for me has got to be making a 3rd queen. I hotkey all my queens, so when I cycle through them, I just use my 3rd queen to make a creep tumor and then spread whatever tumors I see. Of course, it might take a while to clear off the hellions.
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
January 28 2012 06:02 GMT
#19
The OP actually has the most efficient way of doing this, usually you are only spreading in 2-3 directions depending on map and you can easily manage 3 camera locations. Unless you need them for something else like your base which isn't necessary if you use individual queen hotkeys.
tl;dr OP is doing it right. Keep up the good work
nty
orangesunglasses
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States110 Posts
January 28 2012 06:03 GMT
#20
u could use camera hotkeys but really at the end of the day there is no "method" to speak of thats above the rest
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