EPTTvP Tactical Movement: Noblesse's Terran Clinic - Page 3
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NoisyNinja
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FoxTheDream
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On December 19 2011 01:38 KawaiiRice wrote: um... so i shouldnt post? basic push n drop stuff is fine yea but all this dropping around and around in every base for 4 minutes is not standard by any means and that was what I was referring to by "drop antics" From your perspective what is the best way a Terran should approach trying to beat Protoss. I am really struggling with the MU and it seems that Protoss are getting better and better at defending the harassment and just sitting on 3 bases until they have 200/200 army with +3 attack +3 armour. Throw in the AOE like colosus, HT and archons and my army just melts. I know that I need to work on micro. Watching the replays I am often way ahead and just end up loosing. My army size can be 1K to 2K mienrals and gas bigger to no avail. Looking through the latest posts it would seem that a lot more terrans, like myself, are having problems with Protoss as compared to Protoss having problems with Terrans. | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
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Arcane86
United States68 Posts
On December 19 2011 19:37 FoxTheDream wrote: From your perspective what is the best way a Terran should approach trying to beat Protoss. I am really struggling with the MU and it seems that Protoss are getting better and better at defending the harassment and just sitting on 3 bases until they have 200/200 army with +3 attack +3 armour. Throw in the AOE like colosus, HT and archons and my army just melts. I know that I need to work on micro. Watching the replays I am often way ahead and just end up loosing. My army size can be 1K to 2K mienrals and gas bigger to no avail. Looking through the latest posts it would seem that a lot more terrans, like myself, are having problems with Protoss as compared to Protoss having problems with Terrans. I've heard day[9] talk about how the terran bioball has reasonable strength in small numbers while the protoss death-ball is much weaker until all the pieces get put together. KawaiiRice noted the initial engagement kept Protoss's unit count low. Noblesse forced that engagement to happen by poking at the Assimilator from the low ground, making the engagement happen in an open field, giving him lots of room to stutter-step. It's possible that TvP strategies need to revolve around midgame aggression/army-trades to keep the protoss from reaching the 200/200 deathball state. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On December 19 2011 19:37 FoxTheDream wrote: From your perspective what is the best way a Terran should approach trying to beat Protoss. I am really struggling with the MU and it seems that Protoss are getting better and better at defending the harassment and just sitting on 3 bases until they have 200/200 army with +3 attack +3 armour. Throw in the AOE like colosus, HT and archons and my army just melts. I know that I need to work on micro. Watching the replays I am often way ahead and just end up loosing. My army size can be 1K to 2K mienrals and gas bigger to no avail. Looking through the latest posts it would seem that a lot more terrans, like myself, are having problems with Protoss as compared to Protoss having problems with Terrans. winning the big engage is the most important thing to shifting a TvP into your favor. If your micro is poor and you're in a 200 vs 200 situation then you're probably going to lose the engage, then lose to warpins. you should try to set up an ideal battle where P is coming into you and you have good spread/are able to emp everything (cloak helps infinitely). If your army composition is off (not enough / too many vikings) that will make you lose as well. If you win the big engage and have a bank then you should win the game. Pretty tough micro wars. But extremely off topic from the OP ~~ @ Arcane yea thats what it is oo | ||
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awakenx
United States341 Posts
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hyunGGe
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
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JBlaze187
Canada37 Posts
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Sp4cem4nSpiff
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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alepoff
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Nibbler89
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On January 28 2012 06:24 alepoff wrote: Well this is nice and all, but noblesse is 10 times the player bischu is. Anyone can do whatever the hell he wants vs a player who's basically in a lower league and make it look strong :/ Yup, when you have a 30 supply lead drops are obviously amazing because protoss can't split his army. When supplies are equal like they should be barring protoss making a huge error though, and drops can become a liability if blink is done especially if you don't have the multitask to keep your drops alive while keeping up on macro. This is more of a good guide for explaining how to not lose to protoss once you gain a lead assuming you can keep up on macro while having the micro /multitask to do this type of drop play. | ||
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NoctemSC
United States771 Posts
You've explained multi pronged attacks and placement of units in a way that someone from any league could understand That being said, I'll just leave this here. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WRn7A.png) | ||
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