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Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 08 2011 18:20 GMT
#41
On November 09 2011 03:15 Alpina wrote:
I gonna watch all replays just to see peoples reaction :D

Btw you obviously not winning all the games, wonder when exactly do you lose (what opponent must do to win) and on what maps it's not even worth doing this?


i veto tal darim, shakuras and meta.
lost temple is bad if you have a zerg close by air because he can react with a 13 pool. otherwise basicly on cheese wins my cheese by nature ^_^ else its still a tough fight most of the time -_-
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
November 08 2011 18:20 GMT
#42
Oh come on... 6 pool wave incoming, we really don't need this.
6 pool has been too strong since beta anyway. Blizzard needs to do something IMO.
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Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 08 2011 18:21 GMT
#43
On November 09 2011 03:19 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
you should now and try to do some economic 6/7 pools since you have already mastered the all in versions


i worked out my own eco 7pool vs protoss and i think it might be played in the future of zvp
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
UmiNotsuki
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States633 Posts
November 08 2011 18:21 GMT
#44
On November 09 2011 03:15 AA.spoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:03 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Okay, elephant in the room. Completely ignoring the content of the OP, I really have trouble with threads that contain 10+ lines of text with no line breaks and use horrible spelling (e.g., you = u, the = teh, before = b4, etc.) If you wanna be taken seriously, clean it up, please!

That aside, where's the romance gone!? There's something beautiful to grand strategy, there's an art to perfectly thought out and perfectly executed plays. Epic battles of wit and skill! It's why we play StarCraft II in the first place, after all, it's why I watch streams and tournaments all day, it's why there's a culture based solely on this one video game and its predecessor. There's nothing grand about 6 pooling into grandmaster; the only thing this thread makes me think is how terribly annoying cheese is, how frustrating it can be to want to play a real game, free from easy-to-execute, boring all-ins, and to be matched with a 6 pooler instead.

Let me clartify; I almost never lose to 6 pools. I'd estimate I've got about a 90% winrate against them. That doesn't mean 6 pool is bad, I'm just pretty good at dealing with it. But the point is, even when I win against a 6 pool, I'm not enjoying the game. I'm simply going through motions, executing some quick drone micro, and then the game ends. I didn't have to think at all, I didn't have to push myself to my limit to see my will overcome my opponent's; I had to stack drones on a far mineral patch, pull them back, and attack move for an instant surround and an all-too-easy win.

I miss the days of shunning cheesers... when did it become socially acceptable to make the game boring for other people?

._.

The thing is, it is not really cheese, it is more like fun/art at high level.


Build a pool at 6 supply. Rally lings and/or pull drones. MICRO.

Boring...

I'm not gonna bother continuing here, internet arguments are pointless and this isn't the place for it. Sorry Just wanted to express my opinion to balance out all the "6 pooling is awesome let's all do that every single game!" reactions.
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Skyro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1823 Posts
November 08 2011 18:22 GMT
#45
On November 09 2011 03:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 02:44 CapnAmerica wrote:
On November 09 2011 02:40 Odal wrote:
I don't want to sound mean, but I have no clue what this is supposed to mean

be aware when u fight against other worker. ill explain it on a simple example. u fight 5 worker vs 5 worker, what would you do? like 99% of you would say now move back the worker that are getting red. WRONG. u give away alot of damage when doing this and i wouldnt do it to often unless u really want to change the position of your worker, like when ur fighting between the mainbuilding and the minerals u micro normal (with mineral slide) because alot of worker are stuck behind you with full healt, but when u have a line fight you need the hold posi micro. the worker of ur oponnent wont attack "idle worker" they will always attack "aggro worker" so when u simple push "Hold posi" on a red worker it will lose the attention of the other workers fighting you. instant attackmove after u lost the charge so u dont lose to much damage.


Can anyone explain?


He's saying that if you run your worker away it doesn't do any good versus a-move when compared to simply hitting hold position and then resuming an attack command.

If you hold position your worker loses attack priority UNLESS it is being focused specifically by your enemy's workers.

His micro trick is like popping Vanish or Invisibility in WoW, dropping aggro. ^^


omg really? haha this is epic xD


Heh I never thought about that. This could conceivably also be a way to save your workers from something like a ling harass as well no?
khaosis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada96 Posts
November 08 2011 18:25 GMT
#46
Jesus, was this written by a 4th grader? Grammar and punctuation can lead you so far in life, add those into your post. At least the content is somewhat entertaining, if not infuriating to some.
Alea Iacta Est
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 18:32:38
November 08 2011 18:29 GMT
#47
you are my hero. you and actionjezus should form a team like "superfuckingheroes" but you need a cooler "action hero" name(see what i did there).

edit: to people pointing out this guy's grammar and punctuation take into account this guy is from germany. Now what I find ironic is I'm sure he speaks german fluently and you can understand his english. You can speak what? English and Canadian? p.s. the canadian is a joke. shut up. yes, the punctuation and grammar was poor but how about you fix it for him then send him a PM giving him and updated version helping him out. it might even improve his grammar/puncutation seeing where he went worng.

p.s. i get lazy with grammar/punctuation so maybe i'm not one to talk but w/e
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10377 Posts
November 08 2011 18:43 GMT
#48
On November 09 2011 03:25 khaosis wrote:
Jesus, was this written by a 4th grader? Grammar and punctuation can lead you so far in life, add those into your post. At least the content is somewhat entertaining, if not infuriating to some.


Just remember that not everyone here's native language is english o.o
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
ForgottenOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania236 Posts
November 08 2011 18:46 GMT
#49
You are an idiot. I hate it when I meet people like you on the ladder. Useless pricks that waste my time. I have about an hour a day to play and/or watch SC2. And I hate it when I play stupid people and/or when I watch retarded games on stream.

Don't get me wrong, I don't get mad when I lose to cheese. But I get really sad and I find it a waste of my time (even if I win the game) and want to quit because it's better to do other things than watch idiots doing trivial, uncool and not fun at all things while pretending they are playing the game. You are playing a game in which you pretend you are playing SC2.

User was temp banned for this post.
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mumpfel
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany52 Posts
November 08 2011 18:47 GMT
#50
On November 09 2011 03:25 khaosis wrote:
Jesus, was this written by a 4th grader? Grammar and punctuation can lead you so far in life, add those into your post. At least the content is somewhat entertaining, if not infuriating to some.


His english is probably better than your 2nd language ;-)
Vond
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Sweden145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:20:46
November 08 2011 18:49 GMT
#51
On November 09 2011 03:25 khaosis wrote:
Jesus, was this written by a 4th grader? Grammar and punctuation can lead you so far in life, add those into your post. At least the content is somewhat entertaining, if not infuriating to some.


The OP is german.

As for the content itself, I found it quite amusing. I've never 6pooled in my life and don't feel like trying for a good while yet, but I can understand why people mix it in now and then. But 6/7 pool or worker-rush every single game? Wow, I can't believe you don't get bored to death.

Edit: After reading the chat in some of the posted replays, I lost all respect for the OP. Such bad manners... Why would you post stuff where you are making yourself look like an idiot?
Philymaniz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States177 Posts
November 08 2011 18:55 GMT
#52
This is a frigging awesome guide. So much work put into it, and things that will improve my 6 pool. I'm mid masters Terran, and I do ton's of offrace allin zerg play when I'm bored on ladder. Adding this to my epic tl thread list.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
November 08 2011 18:58 GMT
#53
On November 09 2011 03:15 AA.spoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:03 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Okay, elephant in the room. Completely ignoring the content of the OP, I really have trouble with threads that contain 10+ lines of text with no line breaks and use horrible spelling (e.g., you = u, the = teh, before = b4, etc.) If you wanna be taken seriously, clean it up, please!

That aside, where's the romance gone!? There's something beautiful to grand strategy, there's an art to perfectly thought out and perfectly executed plays. Epic battles of wit and skill! It's why we play StarCraft II in the first place, after all, it's why I watch streams and tournaments all day, it's why there's a culture based solely on this one video game and its predecessor. There's nothing grand about 6 pooling into grandmaster; the only thing this thread makes me think is how terribly annoying cheese is, how frustrating it can be to want to play a real game, free from easy-to-execute, boring all-ins, and to be matched with a 6 pooler instead.

Let me clartify; I almost never lose to 6 pools. I'd estimate I've got about a 90% winrate against them. That doesn't mean 6 pool is bad, I'm just pretty good at dealing with it. But the point is, even when I win against a 6 pool, I'm not enjoying the game. I'm simply going through motions, executing some quick drone micro, and then the game ends. I didn't have to think at all, I didn't have to push myself to my limit to see my will overcome my opponent's; I had to stack drones on a far mineral patch, pull them back, and attack move for an instant surround and an all-too-easy win.

I miss the days of shunning cheesers... when did it become socially acceptable to make the game boring for other people?

._.

The thing is, it is not really cheese, it is more like fun/art at high level.

When you're this good at it, it is still cheese, but it also takes skill. A lot of it.
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chingchong99
Profile Joined November 2011
Nauru64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:00:01
November 08 2011 18:59 GMT
#54
On November 09 2011 03:58 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:15 AA.spoon wrote:
On November 09 2011 03:03 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Okay, elephant in the room. Completely ignoring the content of the OP, I really have trouble with threads that contain 10+ lines of text with no line breaks and use horrible spelling (e.g., you = u, the = teh, before = b4, etc.) If you wanna be taken seriously, clean it up, please!

That aside, where's the romance gone!? There's something beautiful to grand strategy, there's an art to perfectly thought out and perfectly executed plays. Epic battles of wit and skill! It's why we play StarCraft II in the first place, after all, it's why I watch streams and tournaments all day, it's why there's a culture based solely on this one video game and its predecessor. There's nothing grand about 6 pooling into grandmaster; the only thing this thread makes me think is how terribly annoying cheese is, how frustrating it can be to want to play a real game, free from easy-to-execute, boring all-ins, and to be matched with a 6 pooler instead.

Let me clartify; I almost never lose to 6 pools. I'd estimate I've got about a 90% winrate against them. That doesn't mean 6 pool is bad, I'm just pretty good at dealing with it. But the point is, even when I win against a 6 pool, I'm not enjoying the game. I'm simply going through motions, executing some quick drone micro, and then the game ends. I didn't have to think at all, I didn't have to push myself to my limit to see my will overcome my opponent's; I had to stack drones on a far mineral patch, pull them back, and attack move for an instant surround and an all-too-easy win.

I miss the days of shunning cheesers... when did it become socially acceptable to make the game boring for other people?

._.

The thing is, it is not really cheese, it is more like fun/art at high level.

When you're this good at it, it is still cheese, but it also takes skill. A lot of it.


Erm no. You are just hoping that your opponent does not bother scouting you. Nothing else.
~900 pts masters toss @ EU | Looking for a practice partner, pm me!
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
November 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#55
lol... coming from the savior streaming thread, just having watched a savior afreeca highlight vid and then reading a thread about how you can 6 pool to GM in sc2... I never regretted quittin sc2 shortly after release, but on special occassions like these I get that warm feeling of being absolutely content with the decision...
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
SasukeStreams
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands174 Posts
November 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#56
Would've enjoyed this if not for your horrible manner.

Shame really.
saromar
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland3 Posts
November 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#57
Just reading the chat logs at drop.sc2 is so funny. Not everyone seems to take it as well as WhiteRa.
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
November 08 2011 19:09 GMT
#58
On November 09 2011 02:24 ActionJesuz wrote:
Great thread mate ^_^ <3


ITS THE MAN. THE LEGEND :D

Great thread btw, great read =). WhiteRa's vid was awesome xD
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
Imperium11
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States279 Posts
November 08 2011 19:09 GMT
#59
It's people like you which make me scared to ladder haha. the last thing I need is an increase in frequency and effectiveness of 6pool in ZvP!
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
November 08 2011 19:10 GMT
#60
On November 09 2011 03:59 chingchong99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:58 DamageControL wrote:
On November 09 2011 03:15 AA.spoon wrote:
On November 09 2011 03:03 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Okay, elephant in the room. Completely ignoring the content of the OP, I really have trouble with threads that contain 10+ lines of text with no line breaks and use horrible spelling (e.g., you = u, the = teh, before = b4, etc.) If you wanna be taken seriously, clean it up, please!

That aside, where's the romance gone!? There's something beautiful to grand strategy, there's an art to perfectly thought out and perfectly executed plays. Epic battles of wit and skill! It's why we play StarCraft II in the first place, after all, it's why I watch streams and tournaments all day, it's why there's a culture based solely on this one video game and its predecessor. There's nothing grand about 6 pooling into grandmaster; the only thing this thread makes me think is how terribly annoying cheese is, how frustrating it can be to want to play a real game, free from easy-to-execute, boring all-ins, and to be matched with a 6 pooler instead.

Let me clartify; I almost never lose to 6 pools. I'd estimate I've got about a 90% winrate against them. That doesn't mean 6 pool is bad, I'm just pretty good at dealing with it. But the point is, even when I win against a 6 pool, I'm not enjoying the game. I'm simply going through motions, executing some quick drone micro, and then the game ends. I didn't have to think at all, I didn't have to push myself to my limit to see my will overcome my opponent's; I had to stack drones on a far mineral patch, pull them back, and attack move for an instant surround and an all-too-easy win.

I miss the days of shunning cheesers... when did it become socially acceptable to make the game boring for other people?

._.

The thing is, it is not really cheese, it is more like fun/art at high level.

When you're this good at it, it is still cheese, but it also takes skill. A lot of it.


Erm no. You are just hoping that your opponent does not bother scouting you. Nothing else.

That's why it is still cheese. But he's doing it a higher level than gold-league six pooling.
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