[D] 1 engineering bay or 2? - Page 2

ProjektMayhem

United States6 Posts

October 19 2011 21:08 GMT

#21

Go watch MKP vs Idra (mlg orlando and its the awesome build that works against P and Z IMO. MKP goes for the gasless fe and lots of rax and marines in the beginning. I won't go any further but that's the build that gives you fast ups.

oOOoOphidian

United States1402 Posts

October 19 2011 21:20 GMT

#22

Recently MKP did a fast +1/+1 build. In order to do that, you either have to cut tanks or you will have a very low marine count if you are trying to produce lots of tanks at the same time.

Zerg players typically go mass ling or mass roach when getting double upgrades, which delays or cuts into the muta count or infestor count depending on what they're doing.

Protoss players often go zealot heavy when getting double upgrades and either delay twilight upgrades or have to skimp slightly on colossus/templar.

It's often too hard to get double upgrades in TvP, but you really only need attack upgrades anyway as they are the most effective.

xlava

United States676 Posts

October 19 2011 21:25 GMT

#23

Coming from the Protoss perspective, the scariest thing in the game is when the Terran is ahead on upgrades. So I would always go for double E bays.

Geovu

Estonia1344 Posts

October 19 2011 21:35 GMT

#24

If you go double E-Bay, you just don't have money to continually pump SCVs, Rax units, get factory, armory, starport, etc. It just doesn't work out practically.

Yet on the other hand Terran simply cannot go long without an E-Bay, as turrets are a necessity early on in every matchup. Unlike say Protoss in PvT, who can make 2 forges and chrono out upgrades anytime he wants before the 15 minute mark and feel good about it. In PvZ Protoss usually gets forge out super fast and stays on one, and as for Zerg, they have nothing to spend their money on besides drones so they might as well rush upgrades

That is why most Terrans get their 2nd ebay after 1/0 or 1/1. As long as you are on top of your ebays you upgrades still pretty fast even if you wait for 1/1 IMO, so I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

secretary bird

447 Posts

October 19 2011 21:42 GMT

#25

Getting 2 engi bays factory armory and the 275/275 for the upgrades is a huge investment early. Its a risky thing to do for that reason and unless you go for a 1/1 timing with lots of bio against Zerg its not worth it imo. The way to do it is start +1 attack early and then get factory armory and second ebay when its about half done or get even later upgrades if your strategy isnt an upgrade timing push or bio heavy to begin with. At least thats what I do.

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