Not a big fan of sharing dropbox to see this. Couldn't you have uploaded it to mediafire, or used some other free online storage that doesn't create a shared directory to which you can technically upload any file, which my computer will automatically sync with and download upon startup?

pitchatan

Sweden6 Posts

October 16 2011 13:17 GMT

#43

For anyone wanting a mirror of the book here you go.

http://www.jimohlsson.se/wp-content/uploads/zergfornoobies.zip
http://www.jimohlsson.se/wp-content/uploads/v1.1.pdf

Also a quick summary of what i thought of the book on my site.
http://www.jimohlsson.se/2011/10/16/zerg-for-noobies/

Would you mind if i or someone else would transcribe this book into html for proper online viewing or translating it?

sonigo

Switzerland38 Posts

October 16 2011 21:17 GMT

#44

cool stuff, surely gonna read it

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

October 17 2011 06:33 GMT

#45

pitchatan, help yourself bro

btw, *thumbs up* on the mirror and review ^_^;;

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10344 Posts

October 17 2011 06:48 GMT

#46

holy shit, this is a lot of good, helpful, clear, concise, juicy information

Thank you for making and release free even! <3 put up a donate link?

Qxz

Canada189 Posts

October 17 2011 07:02 GMT

#47

Your description of the Catz 7 pool is wrong. This is the Catz 7 pool:

7 pool
9 double extractor trick: 6 zerglings
12 overlord
12 queen

From here you usually drone up and take your expansion before the next overlord.

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

October 17 2011 22:47 GMT

#48

The 7 pool build Catz introduces on 12 weeks with the pros is different than that. Could you provide some kind of link? Perhaps yours is an updated (or outdated) one. If I can figure out which, I'll make sure the book has the most recent version.

Yoshi, if you're serious, donations are always welcome. shaft@claneat.com is my paypal.

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

November 13 2011 00:53 GMT

#49

Beginning to look at doing another revision of the book. Any one else have some ideas for me to work on? Now is definitely the time to speak your mind!

SigmaFiE

United States333 Posts

November 13 2011 04:41 GMT

#50

While I am a protoss player, this looks like an interesting read and I will definitely consider it. I would point out to you (out of general respect for an author) that you will want to re-read it and check for spelling and grammar mistakes (i.e. pg.'s 14, 17 -- see "reneration" in the 1st paragraph on pg. 14 and 5th paragraph on pg. 17). Just a little nitpick for you if you ever do decide to sell this. For the time being though - looks really nice. Great job!

kuro466

United States19 Posts

November 13 2011 18:04 GMT

#51

Thanks for taking the time to write and to post this. It's obvious it represents quite a bit of work on your part. Here are some suggestions for future versions:

1) I'd move the "quick reference manual" (p5-p10) to the end of the guide rather than the beginning. This material is not appropriatly explained for either a Noob or Bronze player, and will be more useful after they've read the rest of your guide.

2) It would be helpful to disclose the ladder rank of the author, so the reader understands what kind of experience these lessons are based on.

3) As a plat/diamond zerg, I found much of the discussion to be more advanced than bronze players need to think about... maybe it should be renamed "getting from silver to platinum". IMO, it's much easier to understand the game in bronze (especially as zerg) by focusing on shorter build orders and timing attacks. A skilled player could win almost every bronze ZvT, ZvP game with a 5m roach rush, or roach speedling rush. Bronze players are in bronze because their "5 minute roach rush" takes 8 minutes, because they don't understand how to micro their units, or because they can't handle cheese. IMO, trying to teach them macro so quickly simply opens them up to a 30-40 minute game where they may die with no idea what they did wrong, because they did dozens of things wrong in a game that should have been over long before.

3) IMO, the guide could benefit from some more "structure". It dives in talking about all kinds of details that a bronze player may not follow. I recommend coming up with a short-list of concepts (three of them is typically a good number), and then elaborating on these concepts in different ways over and over with the details.

4) Another structure idea, is trying to break down concepts in steps such as "bronze to silver", "silver to gold", "gold to platinum", with some special sections such as "defending cheese", "macro concepts", and one for each matchup. Whether you put the topics into the right steps is less important than having some way to break up into smaller pieces so the player can focus on just a few small things at a time.

I hope those comments are helpful... Thanks for putting the time in to make a guide to help other folks out!

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

November 15 2011 04:25 GMT

#52

Kuro, appreciate the feedback. I'm really considering the title, as it seems to be confusing a lot of people. The title is just a take on "Zerg for Dummies", but I didn't want to use a copyrighted title, so I tweaked it. It's really for all levels.

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

May 10 2012 06:54 GMT

#53

Hey guys, I know this is a bump to an old thread, but there's good reason. Updating the OP, seeing as v1.2 is now released.

I've added new builds, listed new styles, and re-worked the ZvT and ZvP section. Also added a new ZvP featured article. The scouting times have been revised, as well as updating most of the material to the present meta-game. Older maps are still mentioned in some of the articles, but I think that's something I'll choose to leave, to reflect major changes within the maps themselves -- and serve as a reminder in case any new maps prove to have similar features!

Edit: Apparently the OP can't be edited? Playing around with it, if nothing else, I'll post the link in this one.

Edit 2: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42192160/v1.2.pdf

monk

United States8476 Posts

May 10 2012 06:58 GMT

#54

I think it's cause you haven't updated the OP in over 6 months. You'll have to pm an admin to fix it, but i don't know if it's worth the trouble.

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

May 10 2012 07:03 GMT

#55

On May 10 2012 15:58 NrGmonk wrote:
I think it's cause you haven't updated the OP in over 6 months. You'll have to pm an admin to fix it, but i don't know if it's worth the trouble.

Spent a month compiling the changes to this version and updating it to the present meta-game. Hopefully you'll at least look at the PDF before deciding that.

monk

United States8476 Posts

May 10 2012 07:08 GMT

#56

On May 10 2012 16:03 theonlyshaft wrote:

Show nested quote +

Spent a month compiling the changes to this version and updating it to the present meta-game. Hopefully you'll at least look at the PDF before deciding that.

I'm not an admin and it's not my call anyways =P.

Rimak

Denmark434 Posts

May 10 2012 07:13 GMT

#57

del.
Necropost.

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

May 10 2012 08:00 GMT

#58

On May 10 2012 16:13 Rimak wrote:
del.
Necropost.

Not really... it'd been awhile since I had time to work on the book, and I'd feel bad posting a brand new topic, when this one is still open now that I have had time.

ott

United States74 Posts

May 10 2012 10:05 GMT

#59

Awesome!! Now I've got some reading to catch up on during coffers break, thank god for smartphones

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

May 15 2012 04:10 GMT

#60

No reply from an admin about opening the OP for edit, and the thread is dying again so... any objections to me making a new thread for v1.2?

happy birthday ott