EPT[G] Zerg versus Protoss: Aiurs Armageddon - Page 3
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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ott
United States74 Posts
I love trying new builds, my roach hydra mass upgrades w a few corrupters almost never fails, but its getting a lil old, the no speed fast nydus I now have a 5-1 record against ffe, always nice 2 know u can just end the game. I tried the ling, bling drop style and it was a fun, epic, and entertaining disaster. I never bling drop, soooooo idk Wtf I'm doing, but I got an awesome surround on him and ov's were way out of position, all lings died b4 any blings landed, then I laughed he countered and rolled my while I float way to many resources. But fun. I look forward to trying and refining the various builds and compositions in this guide. Tks from a plat Zerg who needs all the help in the world. | ||
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raebodupdep
United States11 Posts
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
On September 20 2011 03:40 Sated wrote: It's not a review or an opinion piece, "bro", it's a guide. Bias doesn't help in a guide, as it causes readers to confuse the biased advice with the good advice. It's a pretty simple concept.  Then if you can understand such "simple" concept, why did you whine about something that is gonna hurt no one? Instead of commenting on the guide's accuracy and informations? To be honest the OP clearly stated that he is rather biased in this match up, and yet you just herped through OP and right went into anti-zerg mode? bro. Of course theres not gonna be 100% unbiasness, this is internet, he does not write for a living, he writes for his passion and willingness to help others, your statement helps no one. It's a pretty simple concept. -_- TL;DR: OP is trying to help, and unavoidably puts his personal thoughts into it, and yet you just say it is balance whine. He does not write for a living, he wants to help, and you are not helping. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:12 Sated wrote: Because I'm commenting on how well-written the guide is, which it isn't. I thought that was pretty obvious. I guess you complain about video game reviews because the reviews don't help people have fun and the developers were just "trying to help" people have fun? Or something equally ridiculous... Lol you are the one that is complaining about anything. And a guide has no form of similarity to a video game review. I pity you sir, appearntly you have no more well contructed arguement to counter me. TL;DR: Saying something constructive, or don't say it at all. Good day. | ||
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England4983 Posts
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Minastir
Finland62 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:39 TolEranceNA wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 20 2011 08:12 Sated wrote: Because I'm commenting on how well-written the guide is, which it isn't. I thought that was pretty obvious. I guess you complain about video game reviews because the reviews don't help people have fun and the developers were just "trying to help" people have fun? Or something equally ridiculous... Lol you are the one that is complaining about anything. And a guide has no form of similarity to a video game review. I pity you sir, appearntly you have no more well contructed arguement to counter me. TL;DR: Saying something constructive, or don't say it at all. Good day. Pointing out the blatantly obvious flaw in your guide is not constructive criticism? Pretty good guide, but please take your head out of your ass and take the criticism. Your guide does display the strengths of the various protoss strategies very well but lacks in objective view to the matchup. Protoss strategy is "bullshit" and "better in every aspect", while zerg's equally if not moreso strong strategies are "coping with unfairness". | ||
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:45 Sated wrote: Both are examples of criticising a criticism using an incorrect basis. You're saying that I should talk about the accuracy of the guide when I'm purposefully criticising the style of writing used within the guide. You're telling me that I am wrong for not doing something that I didn't set out to do in the first place... which is essentially the same as criticising a game review for failing to help people have more fun with the game, when game reviews aren't designed for that purpose... hence why I used it as an example despite it being unrelated. Also, why do you TL;DR a post with a handful of sentences? :S On September 20 2011 23:43 Minastir wrote: Pointing out the blatantly obvious flaw in your guide is not constructive criticism? Pretty good guide, but please take your head out of your ass and take the criticism. Your guide does display the strengths of the various protoss strategies very well but lacks in objective view to the matchup. Protoss strategy is "bullshit" and "better in every aspect", while zerg's equally if not moreso strong strategies are "coping with unfairness". Lol i didn't write it, i am just trying to convince him that saying "This whole thing is a balance whine." is much less constructive than saying "Maybe take out some of your personal feelings in the MU in the guide." And trying to convince that him this dude is trying to help, and it is unavoidable to have some personal feelings mixed in it, when i never doubt his intention to help, his way of producing the criticism is not helpful to the guide or anyone. I use TL:DR because alot of people dislike reading even the tiniest amount of text. | ||
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
The first part is useful too dispite what the critics say, because the first thing in ZvP is to get rid of that late game mentality a lot of zergs used to have, and understand that the longer the game goes, the closer your chances of winning get to 0%. | ||
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-KarakStarcraft-
United States258 Posts
On September 17 2011 03:03 Sweeper8 wrote: "If we read through all of this, we can essentially note that the Protoss as a whole is better in EVERY ASPECT in the lategame. Their 300 food push is better, their units are more cost-effective and they have more strong Area of Effect dealers than Zerg has. Basically, lategame Protoss is bullshit. Accept the reality and deal with it" LOL did you even think before you wrote this? Protoss having a 300 food push. That would take at least 50 gateways, which is 7,500 minerals. Whereas Zerg doesn't need to spend resources on production facilities, just maintain injects. Protoss units aren't cost efficient at all. The only unit that is cost effective would be the blink stalker, but that is completely negated by infestors. Protoss units may be supply efficient, but Zerg definately beats Protoss in cost efficiency. I don't understand what makes you think the void ray is so good. Yes it beats pretty much everything in a 200/200 battle, but not anywhere near cost effectively. Not to mention how impractical it would be to literally get 200/200 void rays in a game. Protoss has more AOE users, but that's because the rest of our units have low DPS. Zerglings, ultras, broodlords, hydras, and infestors all do sick DPS Also, quit refering to Protoss late game as a deathball. 12+ broodlords can destroy all the protoss ground, while infestors easily counter every protoss air unit. The only times I've seen a Protoss beat a non roach/hydra/corruptor Zerg in a 200/200 battle was when they Zerg engaged very poorly or had his broods way way way out of position and allowed them to get sniped. Don't try to QQ in a writeup when current statistics and results clearly show Zerg superior to Protoss. Your post is pretty wrong and OP's guide is quite good. Well done OP. | ||
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