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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 15 2011 08:21 GMT
#21
Nice. I saw Mana on his stream do two base mothership with one carrier to a lot of success also But this seems like such a fast mothership.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 15 2011 08:28 GMT
#22
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
August 15 2011 08:48 GMT
#23
On August 15 2011 17:28 Sated wrote:
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On August 15 2011 17:21 mcc wrote:
Nice. I saw Mana on his stream do two base mothership with one carrier to a lot of success also But this seems like such a fast mothership.

I was going to say the same thing. MaNa has being doing this on two-bases and it seems a lot more stable that way. You have enough resources to constantly produce carriers and 4gates worth of units, making for a scary-as-hell army by the time you recall into the opponent's main. It also looks like a fairly standard stargate-based pressure build if you manage to keep the fleet beacon hidden!

Although, I do see that you've got a replay for a 2base rush in your opening post. I'll have to take a look at that before I actually talk about your build. I just wanted to mention MaNa's style!


The 2 base isn't really refined at all, it was just something I tried one night. I'll definitely check out mana's style. Do you have a link to a VOD of him doing it on his stream or a replay?
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 08:58:11
August 15 2011 08:57 GMT
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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
August 15 2011 13:00 GMT
#25
@sated hmm, how about instead of getting the mothership to their base which can be scouted by the overlords, while the VR pressure you get blink and more gates and go kiwikaki style? (killing all the hatcheries with blink stalkers and then recalling to save them! :D
tsango
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia214 Posts
August 15 2011 13:00 GMT
#26
used to do something very similar to this on scrap station to great effect against terrans, take out their token missile turret and survive at most 1 scan and its pretty much gg
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greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
August 15 2011 13:27 GMT
#27
I've seen CrunCher do this build a few times, but he used it on close air metalopolis and shattered. Still, good guide, I'll try it out, thanks!
SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
August 15 2011 13:57 GMT
#28
On August 15 2011 12:25 vVvTime wrote:
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On August 15 2011 12:23 GhostKorean wrote:
I suggest you build a proxy nexus so the mothership gets to their base faster

8D


I'd probably have to build all 3 gateways after the mothership to afford this, but I'll see what I can do.


You'd also have an extra chronoboost so you wouldn't need 100 energy after the fleet beacon finished :D
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Koruptor
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
August 15 2011 13:58 GMT
#29
I must say it is super fun to do this strategy. I played it for the whole morning. The best is WTF moment when they see your mothership and it actually is dangerous for them.

It works pretty well on platinum terrans too. I let them see startport so they make more marines than marauders. The timing of mothership mass recall is righ about they finish building 4-5 additional rax after expanding, so they have not enough units.


Universum
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada192 Posts
August 15 2011 14:34 GMT
#30
That Build is really interesting! I used to do a Mothership Rush build long ago, but it was way slower than yours! Thanks for sharing that strategy! It may or may have a good win rate, but in the very least it will be very cool to execute!

Thanks vVvTime
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Dovii
Profile Joined November 2010
United States12 Posts
August 15 2011 14:40 GMT
#31
Just tried this out, and had a blast! Personally I went for a VR and a few phoenix while the MS was building, hoping it would look like a normal SG harass. Many lulz were had.

Thanks for posting!
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
August 15 2011 14:41 GMT
#32
As I'm sure you guys agree, the vVv members post some amazing strats :D Thanks!
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Faren
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
August 15 2011 14:46 GMT
#33
this actually looks perfect for the zerg i fight always getting their lair later than normall and just using pure roach. think it may have some problems againist the ling infestor play also.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 15 2011 14:59 GMT
#34
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
August 15 2011 15:46 GMT
#35
Thanks a lot, sounds like an awesome way to piss off all the bm zergs who think they are the second coming of Jaedong i meet on ladder <3 <3 you guys from vVv are great!
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
August 15 2011 16:58 GMT
#36
I had a nice 1 base/2 Carrier/4 gate build I worked out semi-decently back when there was a Day9 daily about it, and vs Z it can be so brutal, I won 9/10 games with it vs plat/diamond zergs, and every one of them was a complete rollover, the one i lost was to some random guy that rushed blind hydras. I wasn't brave enough to go full mothership though, plus my timing was more like 9/10 minutes, lol.
The thing with most Zs is that at this time in the game, either they'll have overseers, which can be shot down in seconds, or spores.....probably in the back of their base by their mineral line. So this just auto-wins vs so many Z builds. Definitely going to try this in some team battles, lol. Imagine a nice 4 4 gate + mothership rush at 9 minutes hitting a team base, lol.
speedything
Profile Joined September 2010
18 Posts
August 15 2011 18:59 GMT
#37
Thank you so much! This build is awesome and my winrate against Zerg has gone from about 20% to 80%.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 15 2011 23:12 GMT
#38
On August 15 2011 17:57 Sated wrote:
I wish I did. I need to look through the stream VODs and find those games so I can look at his build order. Been meaning to do it for a week or so, now. Looking back at his stream-thread, he did it on August 8th if you wanna have a look yourself (no one replied to me asking for a link...)

As far as I remember, he generally went:

- Nexus first.
- Forge, cannons.
- 1gate, core (warpgates), stargate, void-ray pressure.
- Fleet beacon, get 4gates.
- Get mothership, carriers and a stalker-heavy army.
- Send mothership to opponent's base, mass-recall into their main.
- Win.


He also did that without recall, just pushed and sniping detection on the way just killed the zerg directly.
Keilah
Profile Joined May 2010
731 Posts
August 16 2011 00:40 GMT
#39
Seems like if this gets scouted the crushing answer would be fungal growth. Does z have time to get infestors with energy out?
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
August 16 2011 00:51 GMT
#40
I think you should dub this the "Fuck Yeah!" Build. :DDD
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