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spazzam
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2 Posts
August 19 2011 03:59 GMT
#61
Get a pair of phoenixes with the mamma ship. Oh dang invisible units be picking up mah queens.
"Forever In Bronze"
itsNifty
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands29 Posts
August 19 2011 12:43 GMT
#62
On August 19 2011 12:18 me_viet wrote:
lol ret just lost to this on stream.


I saw it too :D
u mad bro?
RudePlague
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Great Britain113 Posts
August 19 2011 13:10 GMT
#63
Used this build a lot in 2v2s along with a terran 1.1.1 build, added on a couple of phoenixes and cut out some early units. Works a lot of the time, cloaked tanks outside you base with vision onto high ground is pretty good.

Also pulled it off in a 3v3 where we were triple ten pooled by 3 zergs, our zerg died and then we wiped them.

Very fun build, haven't done it in a 1v1 setting though.
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
August 19 2011 13:53 GMT
#64
I just want to build a fucking mothership lol

Totally gonna try this tonight.
the UMP says YER OUT
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 02:00:12
August 24 2011 01:58 GMT
#65
Just rolled axslav and strifecro (2-0) in 2v2 tournament with aLeJ with mothership rush/1-1-1 combo.

Will upload reps!!
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
August 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#66
On August 19 2011 10:24 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 10:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:13 Soluhwin wrote:
The hilarious part of this strategy is that early motherships seem to be the only time a mothership can be useful, even though it is supposed to fill the roll of a flying support caster. I've actually faced something like this before and realized that without a spire... motherships are pretty good on their own. I barely won the game because of a base race, but I really shouldn't have won haha.

Denial of scouting is the key, I mean you could say that about any build, but it's especially true here. If scouted, you can throw down like 3 spores at each base, and 2 spines, then just pump lings, get Lair, and gg.

Not scouted you just flat out die to hilarious mothership shenanigans.

If I saw this I'd probably baneling bust with all my lings (I always get an early bane nest for any SG openings from toss, I detest VRs) and go for a base trade.

The issue with this is something that the player I faced talked with me about at the end: You should recall a probe with the attack and build a pylon in your opponent's base, a cloaked pylon thanks to that mothership.

edit: erm... I guess it's worth noting that the map was scrap, so my opponent recalled the army rather than walk it alllllll the way around, so you could just walk the probe.

Recall to the island. Make a pylon. Win.
DeaDEmperor
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway18 Posts
August 31 2011 15:53 GMT
#67
Pretty neat all in to use in PvZ. Been crushing Diamonds with it ever since first time i tried. Not sure how viable it is at Master level, but i suppose further testing will prove or dissaprove that.
Bow before me!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 31 2011 18:30 GMT
#68
On September 01 2011 00:53 Divine Emperor wrote:
Pretty neat all in to use in PvZ. Been crushing Diamonds with it ever since first time i tried. Not sure how viable it is at Master level, but i suppose further testing will prove or dissaprove that.


He beat Ret with it so its viable vs all skill levels, it really depends on both the micro of the protoss player and how the zerg reacts. Time so unique with your builds <3.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DeaDEmperor
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway18 Posts
August 31 2011 19:27 GMT
#69
It seems to be viable at all skill levels indeed. Just won a Mid Master and a High Diamond with it. Mass Recall and Vortex are just so powerfull abilities.

For those intrested here are the replays.

Markus vs Undrass

http://replayfu.com/r/bLTj2d

Markus vs gCgUnleashed

http://replayfu.com/r/VrXfbf

Good write up time!

Bow before me!
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
August 31 2011 19:31 GMT
#70
I've been doing a build similar to this for 2v2 (P&T) since the beta and... it's a blast. People either lol or bm you to the extreme when you show up with a mothership at their front gates. In 2v2 it beats virtually any teching build, and really wrecks tanks (vortex tanks, walk into vortex, kill everything when vortex ends). It loses to any timing push.

However in the PvZ 1v1 version.. if a roach timing push is coming, you have a stargate and VR's are pretty good at killing roaches.

Never tried the forcefield/recall trick before, look forward to trying that out!
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 21:11:10
August 31 2011 20:54 GMT
#71
On September 01 2011 04:31 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
and really wrecks tanks (vortex tanks, walk into vortex, kill everything when vortex ends).


Why all of a sudden am i picturing people opening phoenix in pvt for scouting and if they see 1-1-1, go for a mothership rush...if that ever turns out to be a good way to beat 1-1-1 ill be the happiest person ever xD
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
elis
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 17:30:15
September 04 2011 17:26 GMT
#72
i just lost to this in a tourney tt, i dont think its easy to hold the first time you see it.. :D

http://drop.sc/31757
Celadan
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway471 Posts
September 04 2011 18:34 GMT
#73
3 queens with 2 tranfuse will kill a mothership so i dont know how good this is to be honest
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Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
September 04 2011 19:06 GMT
#74
... it is scary/works. Just don't run your mothership into a spore crawler (cough)
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Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
September 04 2011 21:00 GMT
#75
On August 16 2011 09:40 Keilah wrote:
Seems like if this gets scouted the crushing answer would be fungal growth. Does z have time to get infestors with energy out?


Im sure zerg can squeeze out 4 infestors atleast with energy by around 10 minutes when they don't take alot of damage from early pressure.
RobCorso
Profile Joined May 2011
United States111 Posts
September 04 2011 21:22 GMT
#76
I do this to my friends with dts underneath and 2 carriers 3 voids for support. Works well, because they snipe mothership and don't look for any cloaked units :D. I would make phoenixes to snipe ovies if it's pvz
We make expand, then defense it-WhiteRa
Keilah
Profile Joined May 2010
731 Posts
September 04 2011 22:32 GMT
#77
On September 01 2011 05:54 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:31 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
and really wrecks tanks (vortex tanks, walk into vortex, kill everything when vortex ends).


Why all of a sudden am i picturing people opening phoenix in pvt for scouting and if they see 1-1-1, go for a mothership rush...if that ever turns out to be a good way to beat 1-1-1 ill be the happiest person ever xD


teehee. get +1 ship armor and use GS and suddenly marines do 1 damage/shot to mothership HP =p

Thing is tho if he goes 1/1/1 he has a starport and that means vikings and I'm pretty sure that means GG mothership =[
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
September 04 2011 22:38 GMT
#78
On September 05 2011 07:32 Keilah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 05:54 Teoita wrote:
On September 01 2011 04:31 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
and really wrecks tanks (vortex tanks, walk into vortex, kill everything when vortex ends).


Why all of a sudden am i picturing people opening phoenix in pvt for scouting and if they see 1-1-1, go for a mothership rush...if that ever turns out to be a good way to beat 1-1-1 ill be the happiest person ever xD


teehee. get +1 ship armor and use GS and suddenly marines do 1 damage/shot to mothership HP =p

Thing is tho if he goes 1/1/1 he has a starport and that means vikings and I'm pretty sure that means GG mothership =[


At least you go down in style, lol. Void ray all-ins are boring after a while.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Coopa826
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 23:32:08
September 04 2011 23:27 GMT
#79
ok i tried it 3 times in row now against 3zergs
1. ling bane EZ
2. Roach hydra EZ
3. MASTER LEAGUE Zerg Mass queen ..........................

3gate expand outdated. Thats the way to go guys

PS: i won all of them EZ peace out



3 queens with 2 tranfuse will kill a mothership so i dont know how good this is to be honest

you know just because you go quick mothership it doesnt mean you cant build units at all ?!
zealots kill queens impressively fast holy cow and you need a mineral dump anyways cause warptech + stargate + fleet thing + mothership costs a ton of gas.
and you need at least two sentries to block the ramp to get some time for mothership.
so overall:
100 gas sentry
100 gas stargate
50gas warptech
200 gas Fleet
400 mothership

iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
September 05 2011 00:25 GMT
#80
On September 05 2011 07:32 Keilah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 05:54 Teoita wrote:
On September 01 2011 04:31 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
and really wrecks tanks (vortex tanks, walk into vortex, kill everything when vortex ends).


Why all of a sudden am i picturing people opening phoenix in pvt for scouting and if they see 1-1-1, go for a mothership rush...if that ever turns out to be a good way to beat 1-1-1 ill be the happiest person ever xD


teehee. get +1 ship armor and use GS and suddenly marines do 1 damage/shot to mothership HP =p

Thing is tho if he goes 1/1/1 he has a starport and that means vikings and I'm pretty sure that means GG mothership =[


If they actually make enough vikings to kill the mothership they won't have any ground army to speak of imo.
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