EPTOn January 30 2013 23:56 kollin wrote:
As in taking your natural behind it, or a third base?
As in taking your natural behind it, or a third base?
Natural
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dynwar7
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govie
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On January 31 2013 05:04 Raisa wrote: Have MMM on 1, ghosts on 2 and vikings on 3. (or vikings on 2 and ghosts on 3, whatever you like. I'm used to have spellcasters on 2.) You want to be able to stutterstep and stim without too much of a hassle. If you stutterstep with MMMV on a single hotkey, your vikings won't fire a single shot. Any tips on how to learn multitasking, controlling and engaging with 3 groups (with 1 spellcastergroup) better. Im somewhat older then most players and i find it hard to master, any tips how i learn to do that better? Just the 1.MMM 2.Ghost 3.Air. Grandpa over and out  | ||
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Cortza
South Africa328 Posts
On January 31 2013 00:35 gkshriram wrote: This is more a general question than a Terran specific one. Just started playing a month ago, and have been practicing a lot against V.Hard AI. The problem is this puts you in a very defensive mindset, as it always all-ins, and it is better to defend the wave, and counter attack. But in a real game, I get way too far ahead before I attack. The last game I only pushed forward and won when I was was 160 to 80 supply wise ahead. And when I try 4v4's it seems like I am being too defensive and turtly even though, when I see the replays I had the largest army by a considerable distance. The multi tasking trainer and practice against AI seem to have given me a bit of a mechanical edge at the lower levels, but I cant quite get the pushing forward and attacking mentality. Is there someway to practice that? Or some tips as to how to gain map control and attack? Basically, is this something you should explicitly work on. Or do all players start a bit turtly and then when they are confident with their basic mechanics become more aggressive over time? I have also been plagued by this mentality. Something about defending and THEN countering is more reassuring, like you now have a good reason to attack, since it's proven he has a smaller army (assuming you held). Attacks in general are more subtle. You have to learn a timing and learn where to probe your opponent. Then it's down to micro and more complex stuff. | ||
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Bwall
Sweden145 Posts
On January 31 2013 17:21 govie wrote: Any tips on how to learn multitasking, controlling and engaging with 3 groups (with 1 spellcastergroup) better. Im somewhat older then most players and i find it hard to master, any tips how i learn to do that better? Just the 1.MMM 2.Ghost 3.Air. Grandpa over and out "Dargleins multitasking trainer" is very good for this(it's on the EU server, don't know about the others). It's really just about practice a lot and after a while it'll feel normal. | ||
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dynwar7
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HanSomPa
United States87 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:06 Cortza wrote: I have also been plagued by this mentality. Something about defending and THEN countering is more reassuring, like you now have a good reason to attack, since it's proven he has a smaller army (assuming you held). Attacks in general are more subtle. You have to learn a timing and learn where to probe your opponent. Then it's down to micro and more complex stuff. This is why good scouting and understanding of game mechanics is important. | ||
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Germany419 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:36 kollin wrote: TheDwf did some very nice analysis on this in one of the Proleague weekly roundups, I suggest you have a look at that. hi kollin, do you have a link for me? can't find it | ||
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PiPaPoh
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On January 30 2013 22:03 kollin wrote: 15 minute 3-3 is impossibly fast unless you get double engineering bay at like 3 minutes. 18 minutes is also fairly fast in every matchup other than TvZ. teja did 3/3 @15min today with a 1rax fe into fast 3rd | ||
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govie
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On February 01 2013 02:10 PiPaPoh wrote: teja did 3/3 @15min today with a 1rax fe into fast 3rd 035s Building time Eng. bay 160s Infantry Weapons Level 1 190s Infantry Weapons Level 2 220s Infantry Weapons Level 3 -------- + 605 sec = 10min and 5 seconds. If u start building your double eng. bays before 5 minutes, ur done at 15 min. But, the gascount is so high if u go for duible eng. bays at 5 minutes, ull drop heavily in armysupply because of mist income. Maybe early 3cc build is a must to just get those minerals and turtle like a boss. | ||
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PiPaPoh
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get early upgrades. | ||
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Willzzz
United Kingdom774 Posts
You can easily have 2-0 and a scary number of marines at 11 mins. | ||
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govie
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On February 01 2013 02:55 kollin wrote: But you can have 2-2 and a scary number of marines tanks and medivacs as well as a 4th base at 14 minutes... I agree. Its insane to try 3-3 at 15min. | ||
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Willzzz
United Kingdom774 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:55 kollin wrote: But you can have 2-2 and a scary number of marines tanks and medivacs as well as a 4th base at 14 minutes... Of course, but it's nice to be able to mix it up once in a while Your power may grow exponentially but so does your opponents. | ||
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kollin
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kollin
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govie
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cc rax cc bunker 2rax bunker etcetc. Push at +2/+1/stim/combat/medivac/concussive (2 eng. bays eventually) is what your aiming for, so time ur 2nd e.bay and gas accordingly. 2 bunkers i would allways do as u have refund eventually. | ||
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