The Protoss Help Me Thread - Page 126

Heya,

Ok--- So TvP, in higher leagues, almost no Terran goes bio/siege because it simply is terrible against a good Protoss player. Everything Protoss has, especially mid/late game, shreds tanks, and tanks are extremely immobile so you can take advatnage of that. In earlier leagues, tanks are good, because lower leagues don't know how to handle them properly and often suicide into them. Also, the 1/1/1 all-in hits a Protoss army early so is very hard to defeat.

So-- #1-- Do NOT attack a heavy turtling Terran w/ 3+ tanks until you have a large economic & military advantage. Instead, continue to expand and put scouts on the watch towers to know exactly when they are moving out & what they are doing. Observers too. If thye are not moving out, feel free to expand freely; watching in case they try to switch tech, etc. As you expand, tech chargelots, blink, collosi w/ thermal lance. Also, get lots of gateways in your expos so if you end up losing a lot of troops, you can easily build more quickly with your high economy and numbers of warpgates. While you expand, do not let them expand-- watch their nearby bases (it's ok if they have their natural)--- don't let them get a 3rd, and get your 4th and 5th while maxing out your army. Feel free to harass with warp prism drops in their mineral lines too and/or blink stalker harss if observer finds a hole in the defense. Eventually, they will run out of money and be forced to make a move. When they do, have obserers watching them move to your base and simply attack them when they are unsieged. A few thermal lnace collosi w/ zealot/stalker support should annihilate their tanks. Chargelots are amazing too, and if they turtle forever the best imo is dark templars. Get 7 dark templars and simply flank their tanks while you engage their army from the front. Even without DT, I always have 5-7 chargelots hiding in the flank to hit their tanks. Do NOT leave your army in your base, or they can contain you with tanks & it could be hard to escape. You need room to move, and disengage if they have the advantage (fully sieges before you hit). Don't be afraid to disengage. They will unsiege and you can catch thems lipping again. If you mess up on micro and die osmehow, rebuild your army w/ lots of chargelots and hit again. They will have no resources left from not being able to expand and die. Some advanced tactics including using warp prism to drop chargelots/immortal on their tank lines while their MM is in the forward position.

Also, you can scout a turtling Terran with an observer and often find holes in thier defense (siege tanks all in one area)--- warp prism or blink stalker harass They'll have to unsiege to resiege. Often you can even warp in zealots to kill thier tanks right in their base. If they have tanks in range of their mineral line, the splash will kill all their SCVS so warp zealots into their mineral line. So take FULL MAP CONTROL and know their eveyr move, expand, and prevent them from expanding. get dual upgrades too. Tech to collosi, high templar, even Dark Templar if you have time. The longer they wait, the more ugprades & money & bases you have while they are stuck on two with an immobile army that sucks goat when out of siege mode. Oh, and storming a group of clumped up tanks works surprisngly well.

Probe Scout: Try to have your probe escape before the marine comes out. It's not worth your APM. The key to good PvT is a follow-up scout with a stalker. Move him up the ramp and you'll see his army composition and if your lucky some tech buildings. Retreat before shields are depleted. This is how you will scout until hallucinatino/observer is out.

Spine/Spores: If Z built a ton of these, you almost don't have to harass because they used so much drones/mineral to do so. However, a favorite of mine is to blink stlaker into his main bypassing his expensive spine wall. You'll rarely find more than 1 spine in the main. To be real fancy, use a warp prism with sentries for high ground vision and block his ramp while you warp prism harass. See this video:

Mutalisks: This is a very difficult thing for all players to deal wtih. Take advantage of the fact Mutalisks are not that strong in a fight so you can have a spread out army and still win. Build a couple cannons at mineral lines + quickly tech to blink stalkers. Leave 3-4 in each base and try to expand with the rest. Numerous cannons at expo and block the entrance with gateways w/ cannons behind them to protect from lings. Get Weapons & Armor--- this is the only PvZ I dual forge. Muts have bouncing attack and armor helps a lot, but you need wepaons os u can take them down. The ultimate best way to kill Mutas is Storm. Hide a storm in your mineral lines and a few good storms and Muts will be so low you'lll run right through them. Max out your army with stalkers, sentries, and HT's w/ some upgrades. For lings, FF + storm. For Muts, Guardian shield + blink stalkers & storms. If you already weakened them with a hidden HT from mineral line they'll drop like flies. Until your ready to attack, don't leave any area of your kingdom without blink stalkers nearby and don't overdo the cannons because high numnbers of muts can chew through them i seconds. Just a few at first to delay them while your stalkers are in position.

GL!