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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On June 17 2011 00:10 Alejandrisha wrote: I agree with this initiative! Won't lie though, I have at times been one of those guys you can't watch the replay at work but from now on I will hold my tongue instead of giving advice  Also I just realized your icon is a mule. It is so cool. I always thought it was some kind of Z-bot or w/e o_0 Same here, I've definitely been guilty of this at least once before :p Like that Artosis PvP chargelot/archon thread that just popped up, I really want to bash it but I guess I'll wait until I watch the reps later tonight... | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
I also agree with z00m, I wish I could like this thread to bring more attention to it lol. I thought about sharing the link on my facebook wall just so I could click like on it there too but not many of my friends follow SC2 or TL.net so I have a feeling it would be falling on def ears. | ||
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7sk
United States55 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
On June 17 2011 00:44 Artik wrote: I do have one question regarding all this. How should I handle posting if I legitmately cannot watch a replay but have something to contribute? I say this because I'm currently military and deployed so while I can browse TL I cannot easily download a replay and if it's on an updated map my current version of SC2 may not be able to load it. I've mostly been lurking and responding to other types of threads though I mention this just incase the situation arises. And this is exactly what you and everyone in a similar situation should do. As I have said on a similar occasion, I realize most people just want to help, and don't mean any harm. But the good intentions of their posting just doesn't change that masses of generic filler posts are useless compared to one good analytical post. And they clog up threads and the forum, making it a worse place for everyone. | ||
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twoCube
United States32 Posts
On June 17 2011 00:53 zatic wrote: And this is exactly what you and everyone in a similar situation should do. As I have said on a similar occasion, I realize most people just want to help, and don't mean any harm. But the good intentions of their posting just doesn't change that masses of generic filler posts are useless compared to one good analytical post. And they clog up threads and the forum, making it a worse place for everyone. Thanks Zetic. It's hard to read the Strategy forum with tons of filler in between the good stuff. I'm in favor of removing the filler. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10363 Posts
You are not helping anyone if you post without having watched the replay, and it's incredibly rude towards the person seeking help too. Would like to know what I did wrong if you have time to comment. I was warned for giving general rules of thumb in a strategy thread, but the OP himself was lacking a lot of basic knowledge, such as what counters what in what compositions. Basically, it wouldn't help to comment specifically about the game, since he didn't even understand what kind of composition you should get. The details shouldn't be looked at if the base knowledge is wrong, since all the details would be screwed up too. You build the smaller things once you get the bigger things, which would be basic game sense and knowledge. Thanks in advance. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On June 16 2011 20:34 Saracen wrote: I was going to close this when I saw it on the sidebar lol... This post isn't to say you can't browse TL from work/school/wherever. It means that you shouldn't be giving advice or asking for help in the Strategy Forum when you don't have access to the basic resources required to make an acceptable post. If you can watch replays and thus give helpful advice while at work, then more power to you. But don't use being at work as an excuse to not follow the forum guidelines. This response made me giggle. Unfortunately, the search function linked by zatic doesn't seem to explain the situation particularly well - a lot of those threads are getting flagged because of various discussion about in-game workers. Apparently quotes aren't causing the search function to treat "at work" as a single search term. Thank you (zatic, saracen, and others who mod here!) for all this effort to make the Strategy forum not suck. | ||
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CakeOrI)eath
United States327 Posts
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BringThaPain
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Chronald
United States619 Posts
I'm at work, or I'd post more... TROLLOL jk. Seriously well said, and a needed post I think. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On June 17 2011 01:18 zatic wrote: Giving advice based on a replay doesn't have to be overly specific, and can just as well be what you call "basic knowledge" . You can still give general advice if that is what you see the person seeking help needs, based on what you see in the replay. I suppose what he's trying to get at if I'm not mistaken is in the case where you'd give the same advice even after watching the rep. That is the OP is really new or doesn't understand basic strategy of RTS so you have to tell them the basic stuff. The rep itself adds no value to the discussion. I seem to recall that thread and was like LOL when I saw Yoshi got warned. nvm - Yoshi edited post with reason. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10363 Posts
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BjC
England181 Posts
One really good OP with only one reply but that is really well done and correct from someone that knows what they say is correct is far far far better and more usefull to me than 10 pages of good intentions. One thing i do notice that is many people that post replays add a disclaimer ( forgive my sloppy play i was drunk /high /tired /dog was chewing my keyboard ) These make me lol. I'd say every person that watches any replay can pick fault at play. keep up the good work zatic | ||
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NCH Insomnia
United States15 Posts
1. Write it up anyways "at work/church/lunch/roller coaster" etc. Because if you're determined ot help then do it. Giving a half arse excuse to not finish a post with the intention to helping is unfortunately not helping at all. 2. Email whatever you've got going on for you/the OP to yourself and finish it at a more convenient and relaxed environment (unlike work for all you who actually work). Being relaxed and giving your full attention to something allows you to see a miss click here or bad positioning of an Overlord. Simple and small things can be better observed when you're paying attention so e-mail whatever help you have to yourself and finish it later for you and the OP's sake. 3. Actually care about helping. Simple as that. I've seen it a lot people just posting "Great Start but you failed to do this which cost you this. Well played!" ...who did that help? Yeah he didn't get the Gateways up at a good time but I mean elaborate maybe? That'd be cool! So that's my small rant on such an epidemic present on forums like these. -Insomnia | ||
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Neo.NEt
United States785 Posts
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Veritassong
Canada393 Posts
LOL. jk. =] | ||
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Jtn
444 Posts
On June 17 2011 04:47 Neo.NEt wrote: While this is probably a good idea I think the end result is probably going to be worse. Before you see a reply that starts with "I didn't watch the replay but..." and at least you know what he's about to say is probably trash but now they're just going to say what they wanted to say anyway and you don't even know that they didn't watch the replay. No, it's incredibly easy to tell. Anyone who's watched a replay and commented on it will mention specific parts of the replay. Even if it's something generic like "at the end of the game you only had 30 drones, make moar" | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
lol told...  for one, TL posting is a serious job and full-time job that takes personal integrity; no other "jobs" allowed. | ||
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