Either way isn't this a strategy and should be in the strategy forum? O_Oa
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
Either way isn't this a strategy and should be in the strategy forum? O_Oa | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
Real men Cheese and Still look Manly | ||
Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
On May 31 2011 23:43 Nizzy wrote: As someone that plays way too many team games in his free time I can tell you that this will not work vs a player in team games that I like to call "having a pulse." Someone that understands how to build in situations like these. In some of your screen shots it looks like it takes 3 pylons to wall yourself in at the start, does the Protoss have 300 minerals that fast? Plus once I see the first pylon go down, I would bring some scvs to help block the remaining areas of the "closed in location." Either way isn't this a strategy and should be in the strategy forum? O_Oa You gotta understand how early in the game this rush comes along. There is no gate, there are no additional pylons needed in your base, means you basically will build those wall-in-pylons faster than the cybernetics core in a normal build. Of course a player who is on top and knows its coming would be able to prevent the 2 additional pylons...but on the other hand..you wait for 300 mins and you place those pylons in a matter of perhaps 2-3 seconds... Highly unlikely that someone who does not suspect this will be able to pull probes in time after the first pylon get warped in. | ||
ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
PvT: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=201914 PvP: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=201923 Direct counter to this build is lurking forums where the one performing it might be posting about his drunk endeavours: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=201924 This build also transitions very well into 4 gate and BM Enjoy lol | ||
fluffyclouds
Germany7 Posts
I *do* hope however that this build makes it into the PvP strategy choices so that we have at least have one. Maybe as early as MLG next weekend. :-D One last question regarding the casting language discussions of the last days, since I am not a native speaker: Is it mature langauge to say "Toss love to cannon rush their girl-friends" or is that rather immature? Thx. | ||
Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On May 31 2011 19:14 SenorChang wrote: a good skill toi have Indeed it is. | ||
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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CryMore
United States497 Posts
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Iamthecreeper
3 Posts
On May 31 2011 19:00 Hot_Bid wrote: How to Cannon Rush Like A BOSS After watching Boes fail cannon rushing for the 10th time, I've decided to write a small guide on how to properly do the manliest cannon rush in team games. What is the BOSS Cannon Rush? BOSS cannon rush is when you make pylons that wall off behind the opponent's workers and then make walled-off cannons. It's only effective against T and P opponents, specifically P opponents (since they can't lift off). Like this: This probe... is THE MAN. Hidden CR vs BOSS CR Hidden cannon rushes suck. They are easily defended if scouted, and almost everyone scouts for them once they see your forge. They often require more resources, cannons, and time. The BOSS cannon rush is in your face. It screams "I don't care what you do, or that you see this, you will watch my cannons go up and kill you." It is the epitome of manly cheese, almost as manly as making gates right next to someone's nexus. Do not underestimate the crippling psychological blow that the BOSS cannon rush deals. It's one thing to die to cannons you don't scout, it's another thing to die to cannons warping in while your units sit helpless and their probe laughs in his comfortable walled off cave. Basic Build Order 1. pylon on 9 2. send your probe to desired cannon rush location 3. forge on 12 4. save money for blocking pylons How to execute 1. Make sure your probe looks as innocent as possible. You're not going to make any pylons until you have 300-400 minerals anyway, so try to look like a normal scout. 2. Stay within his vision so he doesn't send a chaser probe/scv to follow you around, as those are annoying and make your BOSS CR harder to execute. The more noob you look by not moving your probe around, the better. I tend to just park the probe a few squares away from his nexus. 3. The first pylon you make should be the one that walls the smallest gap. Example on 6:00 position on Toxic Slums, in order of build: Ditching the "follower" Most players send a worker to follow your probe. These are annoying, but if you can evade it from blocking your pylon quite easily. A few matrixes away from where you want to build your first blocking pylon (the "1" spot in the above picture) you hit "S" and let the worker attack you, then you zoom away from it and build the pylon. Make sure you build it so you end up on the right side of the pylon (in this case/picture, below the pylon). Then simply build pylons #2 and #3 (and when necessary, #4). The timing on ditching the worker might take you a few tries of practice but it's not hard. If you properly execute it you will get enough separation from the enemy worker to build. Backup Blocking Pylons In Brood War, you could remake a building immediately after it was killed by melee units, which would re-block. You can't do this in SC2. But you can make a pylon one matrix behind. Take this into consideration when you build. Example: Notice the back up pylon, which is in green. This can be made immediately after the opponent's workers kill pylon #3. Example Pylon Placements Ideally, you want to choose a location that is wall-able using only 3 pylons. Waiting for 400 minerals for 4 pylons is a bit scarier, since often you can't properly ditch the following worker sometimes. Backup blocker pylons are in green, where possible. They're pretty easy to figure out, here are some examples: 4v4 Map Toxic Slums + Show Spoiler [Cannon Placements] + 6:30 position 5:00 position 2:00 position 12:00 position 11:00 position 10:00 position 9:00 position Don't forget that around the gas geyser are some pretty cool cannon spots too: 3v3 Map Monsoon + Show Spoiler [Cannon Placements] + Bottom center position Bottom left position Bottom right position Top center position Top left position, so much space! Top right position Other Fun Stuff Some maps have some hilarious cannon spots, and completely imbalanced positions. Like on the original first 3v3 map Arakan Citadel bottom center position: Or on the center positions on the 4v4 map Lava Flow: http://i.imgur.com/URIzh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/pL7BI.jpg Yes, that first cannon is 100% tight, even pushes your own probe out. Just have your ally send an overlord over the cliff. Good luck and happy cannon rushing! Yea, but then again... It's cheesing, right? | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On May 31 2011 23:58 Drazerk wrote: Manly cheese is the best kind of Cheese Real men cheese and look manly | ||
stk01001
United States786 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15306 Posts
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
On June 01 2011 00:06 stk01001 wrote: This is almost as manly as the time Bisu built two gateways in his opponents base in a televeised game.. and won.. i forget who it was against.. some chobo.. but it was sooo damn manly.. pokju i believe. I tried doing that in sc2 and it's actually pretty easy to pull off in pvp | ||
zatic
Zurich15306 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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AveSharia
United States62 Posts
In all seriousness, who doesn't pull workers to kill a scouting probe behind the mineral line? | ||
Porta-
Norway46 Posts
On June 01 2011 00:08 zatic wrote: OP: Guide threads need replays. Please read the Strat forum guidelines. This is TL not some BGH forum. We have standards here. I lol'd. :D http://onemoregame.tv/index.php/archive/kings/item/97-kot-009.html vods of OP cannon rushing! | ||
kusu
Sweden440 Posts
On June 01 2011 00:08 zatic wrote: OP: Guide threads need replays. Please read the Strat forum guidelines. This is TL not some BGH forum. We have standards here. Just ban plz, tired of these forum noobs... "nice guide bro" | ||
GeeRobb
Canada36 Posts
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sc2pal
Poland624 Posts
nice guide anyways | ||
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