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dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
May 28 2011 05:55 GMT
#101
Zerg players seem to have adapted. They just send in a shitton of zerglings when you do this. It doesn't work anymore.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 28 2011 06:07 GMT
#102
On May 28 2011 14:55 dump wrote:
Zerg players seem to have adapted. They just send in a shitton of zerglings when you do this. It doesn't work anymore.


As long as your sim city and micro is extremely precise, u can hold off any amount of lings.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
May 30 2011 23:53 GMT
#103
Capoch, how has this been working after the patch? Do you have any new replays?
Capoch
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina179 Posts
June 15 2011 15:45 GMT
#104
I havent been using this much as before. I only still recommend it for far spawns and the sim city must be perfect, if not you might eat an early ling rush. 2 zealots and mass sentries with good ff/sim city can stop any ling rush.
sc0rp10n
Profile Joined March 2011
United States28 Posts
June 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#105
Looking for a reasonably safe build to get good at, considering zergs current go-to build, roach-ling early pressure. You said you weren't doing this nearly as much, I assume it's because of this tricky zerg build...

che, ¿cuál build me recomiendas?
Warp
Profile Joined August 2010
United States166 Posts
June 15 2011 21:06 GMT
#106
On May 28 2011 15:07 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 14:55 dump wrote:
Zerg players seem to have adapted. They just send in a shitton of zerglings when you do this. It doesn't work anymore.


As long as your sim city and micro is extremely precise, u can hold off any amount of lings.


I think you underestimate "a shitton of zerglings" because it literally is a SHIT TON. I'd like to see you hold off 30 speedlings with two zealots and three sentries... and also you don't have enough buildings yet to form good sim city so your natural is screwed no matter what and if you aren't careful you can lose your main too.. don't underestimate speedlings.

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Capoch
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina179 Posts
June 16 2011 14:15 GMT
#107
On June 16 2011 05:10 sc0rp10n wrote:
Looking for a reasonably safe build to get good at, considering zergs current go-to build, roach-ling early pressure. You said you weren't doing this nearly as much, I assume it's because of this tricky zerg build...

che, ¿cuál build me recomiendas?



Well, this build still works if your opponent is not in close spawns still... but if you want a safer build, I recommend doing a 1gate FE at around 24food, when you have 1 zealot and 1sentry out. You can do a pylon down the ramp and put 2 gates there and expo... it will still be hard to hold an early ling/roach pressure, but easy to hold a ling pressure. What I do sometimes, is drop another gate below and a stargate in base, so that would hold the roach/ling pressure pretty good if you block your units well. An early vr can stop the roaches and then do some nice harrassment. If you even want a more safer build, then 3gate then expo is always a good choice, but I dont like it much because I feel it gives the zerg a bit of advantage...

Cheers
sc0rp10n
Profile Joined March 2011
United States28 Posts
June 17 2011 14:01 GMT
#108
Capoch, thanks for you answer, it is of great help to me. The stargate approach is similar to what MC did at mlg, 1 gate expo,add 2 more gates, followed by a stargate, all the while making only sentries out of the 1st gate. Relatively safe.

Smoodish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States95 Posts
June 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#109
Nice build, ill try it out. im mainly posting so i can easily find this thread.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 02 2011 04:32 GMT
#110
On June 16 2011 23:15 Capoch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 05:10 sc0rp10n wrote:
Looking for a reasonably safe build to get good at, considering zergs current go-to build, roach-ling early pressure. You said you weren't doing this nearly as much, I assume it's because of this tricky zerg build...

che, ¿cuál build me recomiendas?



Well, this build still works if your opponent is not in close spawns still... but if you want a safer build, I recommend doing a 1gate FE at around 24food, when you have 1 zealot and 1sentry out. You can do a pylon down the ramp and put 2 gates there and expo... it will still be hard to hold an early ling/roach pressure, but easy to hold a ling pressure. What I do sometimes, is drop another gate below and a stargate in base, so that would hold the roach/ling pressure pretty good if you block your units well. An early vr can stop the roaches and then do some nice harrassment. If you even want a more safer build, then 3gate then expo is always a good choice, but I dont like it much because I feel it gives the zerg a bit of advantage...

Cheers

Any replays?

Looking for another FE to mix in to a 3gate FE on maps with open naturals and medium rush distance, like Xel Naga.
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