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kawaiiryuko
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States368 Posts
April 14 2011 22:45 GMT
#401
Using windows 7, I turned off "Enhance Pointer Precision" which seems to have the same effect as turning off mouse acceleration. Is this the same thing? If so, it seems a lot easier than doing a registry edit, no? Or am I confused?
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 14 2011 23:04 GMT
#402
On April 15 2011 07:45 kawaiiryuko wrote:
Using windows 7, I turned off "Enhance Pointer Precision" which seems to have the same effect as turning off mouse acceleration. Is this the same thing? If so, it seems a lot easier than doing a registry edit, no? Or am I confused?

Nope, it's not the same. In the link I provided there is a program that outputs the movements read by the mouse and the movements of the cursor. You can load it up, move the mouse around, and if the numbers on the left column are different from the numbers on the right, you don't have a 1:1 ratio (which you want to have ideally).

Gotta follow the steps detailed in my guide.
the9thdude
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
April 15 2011 15:07 GMT
#403
Any word on if this can be used at LAN events like MLG?
Those who are overconfident, are careless.
Klappsn
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany5 Posts
April 15 2011 17:12 GMT
#404
wow, simply amazing what you did there

if every sc2 player would read this (and use it) the na+eu ladders would get to a whole new level, imho.
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
April 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#405
Mind blowingly good thread, thank you.
good luck have batman
TheWindupMan
Profile Joined April 2011
1 Post
April 15 2011 20:55 GMT
#406
Spectacular thread. Especially all the mouse info. I was wondering how to actually get my mouse movements to be more precise, as getting a razer was helpful but my clicking still felt very inaccurate. Now to go practice some more!
Circos
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom115 Posts
April 16 2011 01:39 GMT
#407
The result of when theorycrafting goes too far.

Good, but unnecessary.

User was temp banned for this post.
I saw the angel within the marble, and I carved until it was free.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
April 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#408
When I have time... I will prob read this. Seems boss status.
HaakonM
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway2 Posts
April 16 2011 09:43 GMT
#409
Wow, this is a really really good!!! This is not for critisizing you, only to help you, but there were one sentence in 4.01 that was a little strange:
"Once you have three builds going (one for each matchup) then stick with those three until you can execute those three perfectly you can start messing with lots of other build orders."
I think you see it yourself
Crugio
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia45 Posts
April 18 2011 11:19 GMT
#410
Nice guide! Btw, might be worth noting for some that you can set your mouse acceleration to zero for direct 1:1 ratio via Logitech Setpoint if you have this mouse. This is the case in Windows 7 also.
I'm in a world of hurt!
Deep.inside
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden9 Posts
April 18 2011 23:14 GMT
#411
This thread is blastingly good!

Just started to play and need all the tips one can get! This thread delivered!
"ROFL, when lol was not enough."
charliexjustice
Profile Joined February 2011
United States42 Posts
April 19 2011 05:30 GMT
#412
First of all, great guide. Thanks very much for taking the time to write this up. Other posts about BO's looked great too, I will be lurking all of your posts from now on.

Now, on to my questions: regarding mouse settings, I read in this post that Windows mouse settings have no effect on Starcraft 2, and that all that is necessary to achieve a 1:1 mouse movement/cursor movement ratio is to change the in game sensitivity to anywhere between 51-54% and deactivate "Enhance pointer precision" in Windows (this seems to contradict the previous statement, but that's what the OP says). The OP seems to have researched this well and be fairly knowledgeable about the subject (of course, this doesn't prove he's right).

I am not calling you a liar, and I hope that it does not come off that way as I have a great deal of respect for you as a player, and I appreciate this guide. I just want a clear answer before I tamper with my registry files, as your post and his contradict each other and I'm not sure who is right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625

Another question regarding screen scrolling and use of the minimap: Is screen scrolling an ABSOLUTE no-no? I have been doing custom games vs both AI and human opponents today and yesterday with screen scrolling disabled, and it has been a very useful exercise for increasing minimap use, but find it very difficult to micro manage battles without scrolling. It seems less efficient to use the minimap in this case, particularly when being stim kited by a terran player whose units keep running off screen. Day 9 actually mentions in #252 that "There are some times when screen scrolling is useful..." but then trails off and never quite gets back to the subject.

Do you ladder with screen scrolling deactivated, or are there specific scenarios where screen scrolling is considered acceptable technique?

I went through all 20 something pages of replies to see if these questions were addressed, and I was unable to find them. If they have already, I apologize for the redundancy.

Once again, thanks for the guide!

charliexjustice
Profile Joined February 2011
United States42 Posts
April 19 2011 06:39 GMT
#413
On another note, I have noticed many posters discouraging you from delaying your college education in order to pursue professional starcraft, as though not making tons of money from it will somehow ruin your life (it won’t). College will ALWAYS be there, while the window of opportunity for a chance at pro SC could be limited. As far as the consequences of delaying college go, the worst case scenario is you move back into your parents house and attend community college, then transfer to uni. BIG DEAL. You are obviously very talented and very young, and it there is no telling how far Starcraft could take you. Don’t let doubters and so-called “practical” adults discourage you with their vague threats of consequences.
By the way, I speak from experience. I basically quit school when I was your age and went on tour with my band, played shows in more countries than I can count and shared the stage with my musical idols. Never got rich or famous, but I am now almost 25 and about to finish school.
Sorry for the digression from the subject of gameplay, but one thing I can’t stand is young people being criticized for the pursuit of their dreams, especially someone as talented as yourself. Judging your analytical and logical abilities by the quality of your writing, I’m sure you’ll make the right decision.
“It is better to regret doing something, than to regret not doing something.”

MilAgro
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 17:53:43
April 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#414
what about PvP? The whole matchup is based on cheese and learning food lists.
Its the only improvement you can make
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sc2MilAgro
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#415
On April 19 2011 14:30 charliexjustice wrote:
First of all, great guide. Thanks very much for taking the time to write this up. Other posts about BO's looked great too, I will be lurking all of your posts from now on.

Now, on to my questions: regarding mouse settings, I read in this post that Windows mouse settings have no effect on Starcraft 2, and that all that is necessary to achieve a 1:1 mouse movement/cursor movement ratio is to change the in game sensitivity to anywhere between 51-54% and deactivate "Enhance pointer precision" in Windows (this seems to contradict the previous statement, but that's what the OP says). The OP seems to have researched this well and be fairly knowledgeable about the subject (of course, this doesn't prove he's right).

I am not calling you a liar, and I hope that it does not come off that way as I have a great deal of respect for you as a player, and I appreciate this guide. I just want a clear answer before I tamper with my registry files, as your post and his contradict each other and I'm not sure who is right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625

Another question regarding screen scrolling and use of the minimap: Is screen scrolling an ABSOLUTE no-no? I have been doing custom games vs both AI and human opponents today and yesterday with screen scrolling disabled, and it has been a very useful exercise for increasing minimap use, but find it very difficult to micro manage battles without scrolling. It seems less efficient to use the minimap in this case, particularly when being stim kited by a terran player whose units keep running off screen. Day 9 actually mentions in #252 that "There are some times when screen scrolling is useful..." but then trails off and never quite gets back to the subject.

Do you ladder with screen scrolling deactivated, or are there specific scenarios where screen scrolling is considered acceptable technique?

I went through all 20 something pages of replies to see if these questions were addressed, and I was unable to find them. If they have already, I apologize for the redundancy.

Once again, thanks for the guide!

Actually that post you linked is right, but looks like it assumes that mouse acceleration is off. That other post was just talking about how to set the SC2 slider, and you want it at 51%. Now to turn off acceleration you must use the proper registry file to edit your registry, as the "turning off enhanced precision" button is not enough in Windows 7 to turn off acceleration.

On April 19 2011 15:39 charliexjustice wrote:
On another note, I have noticed many posters discouraging you from delaying your college education in order to pursue professional starcraft, as though not making tons of money from it will somehow ruin your life (it won’t). College will ALWAYS be there, while the window of opportunity for a chance at pro SC could be limited. As far as the consequences of delaying college go, the worst case scenario is you move back into your parents house and attend community college, then transfer to uni. BIG DEAL. You are obviously very talented and very young, and it there is no telling how far Starcraft could take you. Don’t let doubters and so-called “practical” adults discourage you with their vague threats of consequences.
By the way, I speak from experience. I basically quit school when I was your age and went on tour with my band, played shows in more countries than I can count and shared the stage with my musical idols. Never got rich or famous, but I am now almost 25 and about to finish school.
Sorry for the digression from the subject of gameplay, but one thing I can’t stand is young people being criticized for the pursuit of their dreams, especially someone as talented as yourself. Judging your analytical and logical abilities by the quality of your writing, I’m sure you’ll make the right decision.
“It is better to regret doing something, than to regret not doing something.”

Thanks, I definitely appreciate your words. However I've recently found that I don't enjoy playing SC2 as much as I thought I would. I actually enjoyed improving myself as a player, more than playing at the level that I do now. So, I've decided to attend this school for computer science.
GCVeila
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States39 Posts
April 19 2011 18:15 GMT
#416
Very great guide, you are amazing for doing this! Read half and bookmarking for later!

Hopefully you will get me out of gold :3
Just keep playing, don't stop!
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 19 2011 22:30 GMT
#417
Thank you for this awesome thread.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 19 2011 23:11 GMT
#418
On April 20 2011 07:30 sJarl wrote:
Thank you for this awesome thread.

You are welcome
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 14:11:43
April 26 2011 14:10 GMT
#419
On April 20 2011 02:53 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 14:30 charliexjustice wrote:
First of all, great guide. Thanks very much for taking the time to write this up. Other posts about BO's looked great too, I will be lurking all of your posts from now on.

Now, on to my questions: regarding mouse settings, I read in this post that Windows mouse settings have no effect on Starcraft 2, and that all that is necessary to achieve a 1:1 mouse movement/cursor movement ratio is to change the in game sensitivity to anywhere between 51-54% and deactivate "Enhance pointer precision" in Windows (this seems to contradict the previous statement, but that's what the OP says). The OP seems to have researched this well and be fairly knowledgeable about the subject (of course, this doesn't prove he's right).

I am not calling you a liar, and I hope that it does not come off that way as I have a great deal of respect for you as a player, and I appreciate this guide. I just want a clear answer before I tamper with my registry files, as your post and his contradict each other and I'm not sure who is right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625

Another question regarding screen scrolling and use of the minimap: Is screen scrolling an ABSOLUTE no-no? I have been doing custom games vs both AI and human opponents today and yesterday with screen scrolling disabled, and it has been a very useful exercise for increasing minimap use, but find it very difficult to micro manage battles without scrolling. It seems less efficient to use the minimap in this case, particularly when being stim kited by a terran player whose units keep running off screen. Day 9 actually mentions in #252 that "There are some times when screen scrolling is useful..." but then trails off and never quite gets back to the subject.

Do you ladder with screen scrolling deactivated, or are there specific scenarios where screen scrolling is considered acceptable technique?

I went through all 20 something pages of replies to see if these questions were addressed, and I was unable to find them. If they have already, I apologize for the redundancy.

Once again, thanks for the guide!

Actually that post you linked is right, but looks like it assumes that mouse acceleration is off. That other post was just talking about how to set the SC2 slider, and you want it at 51%. Now to turn off acceleration you must use the proper registry file to edit your registry, as the "turning off enhanced precision" button is not enough in Windows 7 to turn off acceleration.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 15:39 charliexjustice wrote:
On another note, I have noticed many posters discouraging you from delaying your college education in order to pursue professional starcraft, as though not making tons of money from it will somehow ruin your life (it won’t). College will ALWAYS be there, while the window of opportunity for a chance at pro SC could be limited. As far as the consequences of delaying college go, the worst case scenario is you move back into your parents house and attend community college, then transfer to uni. BIG DEAL. You are obviously very talented and very young, and it there is no telling how far Starcraft could take you. Don’t let doubters and so-called “practical” adults discourage you with their vague threats of consequences.
By the way, I speak from experience. I basically quit school when I was your age and went on tour with my band, played shows in more countries than I can count and shared the stage with my musical idols. Never got rich or famous, but I am now almost 25 and about to finish school.
Sorry for the digression from the subject of gameplay, but one thing I can’t stand is young people being criticized for the pursuit of their dreams, especially someone as talented as yourself. Judging your analytical and logical abilities by the quality of your writing, I’m sure you’ll make the right decision.
“It is better to regret doing something, than to regret not doing something.”

Thanks, I definitely appreciate your words. However I've recently found that I don't enjoy playing SC2 as much as I thought I would. I actually enjoyed improving myself as a player, more than playing at the level that I do now. So, I've decided to attend this school for computer science.


Thanks for clarifying, I had thought the enhanced precision was enough, I will be using the program tonight and hopefully getting things fixed.

Also I have been following your guide, I picked a single build for each matchup, practiced it a bunch until I thought I was ready and then went on line. Sadly I kept losing but then I remembered you said you have to be willing to lose. So I stuck with it and along with trying to play every day have since started seeing drastic improvements in my play. I still have a long way to go, but just seeing the improvements so far has been great.

Thanks,
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
GnarKill
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada68 Posts
April 26 2011 14:42 GMT
#420
I fully agree with the goal setting aspect you mentioned. At the start of April I set a goal to become top 1000 in NA starting from about 2000th. Now I am ranked 500 in masters, so if you throw in GM too im about 700 NA. I even passed you on ladder Cecil T_T. It is important to set goals that are measurable and attainable, and do your best to meet them.
"i've got this ability to say things that never really happen" - Moletrap... truer words never been spoken
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