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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 16:23:07
June 16 2012 16:22 GMT
#581
On June 17 2012 01:16 drooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 08:45 CecilSunkure wrote:
On June 16 2012 08:36 Fencer710 wrote:
Dragging your cursor from the top left to the bottom right is the
absolute best way to create a box for everyone but the professionals.
Would you mind elaborating on why it's not the best for professional SC2 players to box from top left to bottom right and what the best method is? (I'm guessing it's top right to bottom left from streams)

For right hand it's best to go from top left to bottom right.

It's also very useful to be able to box in any direction on the fly, but that skill isn't useful to work on until you get really good.


I don't get that. Top right to bottom left is a much more natural movement (with the right hand).


Not for me it isn't. Top left to bottom right is FAR more natural for me than right to left.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
June 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#582
On June 17 2012 01:16 drooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 08:45 CecilSunkure wrote:
On June 16 2012 08:36 Fencer710 wrote:
Dragging your cursor from the top left to the bottom right is the
absolute best way to create a box for everyone but the professionals.
Would you mind elaborating on why it's not the best for professional SC2 players to box from top left to bottom right and what the best method is? (I'm guessing it's top right to bottom left from streams)

For right hand it's best to go from top left to bottom right.

It's also very useful to be able to box in any direction on the fly, but that skill isn't useful to work on until you get really good.


I don't get that. Top right to bottom left is a much more natural movement (with the right hand).


I used top right to bottom left for a long time, i always had much higher accuracy pulling mouse towards me, maybe because i am a low sens player
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 20:18:34
June 16 2012 20:11 GMT
#583
On June 16 2012 22:13 Tassadarstarcraft2 wrote:
i m a too good for this, but this is a really good post!

Lets 1v1

Edit: How about this guy too:
On June 16 2012 21:21 From Afar wrote:
Not only does a North American master's player have the expertise to instruct other people about the game, but his guide is apparently The way to improve, and applies to everyone.


Just PM if you guys would like to. I'll even go over games and give advice if I win! I think I can back up what I wrote by playing the game well enough.
sliced_bread
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2 Posts
June 16 2012 20:55 GMT
#584
As a newer player to starcraft 2 myself, I just wanted to say thank you for this. Any players who would consider themselves to be lacking in any field of this game would be absolutely foolish to not read this! Thanks again!
It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
LeodaR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States15 Posts
August 27 2012 18:42 GMT
#585
I want to echo what sliced_bread said. I've bumbled my way through 100+ bronze league games before reading this. What a waste. (or learning experience...).

As a terran, so far I can max out at 18 min with lots of low food marines. That would put me 120 supply (and usually 65 army supply) ahead of my opponent on games I've lost lasting that long.

Thank you x1,000
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
August 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#586
On August 28 2012 03:42 LeodaR wrote:
I want to echo what sliced_bread said. I've bumbled my way through 100+ bronze league games before reading this. What a waste. (or learning experience...).

As a terran, so far I can max out at 18 min with lots of low food marines. That would put me 120 supply (and usually 65 army supply) ahead of my opponent on games I've lost lasting that long.

Thank you x1,000

You're welcome sir! Glad I was able to help you out
LeodaR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States15 Posts
August 28 2012 10:42 GMT
#587
On August 28 2012 04:10 CecilSunkure wrote:
You're welcome sir! Glad I was able to help you out


Perhaps this isn't the place, or maybe I missed it in the PDF, but when do you know your macro is ready? I've been able to not get supply blocked and keep my minerals/gas under 1,000. Obviously I continue to play easy A.I. Games just to practice and improve (my next goal is to keep under 600/600 before I max out), but I'm unsure of when I'm ready to actually play again.
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