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On October 04 2018 23:38 Tempest wrote:
Posted this in toss help me thread, but that thread can take a while to get a response, so ill post here as well:
Assuming scout after 14 pylon in PvT, you scout they are proxying, have taken both gasses. What gas count should you expect to be missing from refineries in order to determine they are proxying cyclones? does fast double gas guarantee cyclone rush or could it be something else?
no, you can't just count gas and know what T is doing, that's part of the problem everyone is talking about right now with T proxying every single game. terrans have gone insane with build-hiding. even if you scout rax and depot block with no factory he could just be hiding the factory in the back of his base, then he could make hellions and cloak banshees. or it could indeed be proxy cyclone. even if you scout proxy factory you still don't know if there's a proxy starport, etc. etc. etc.
a decent rule of thumb on ladder is that if you don't know what terran is opening then assume it's the worst thing. assume cyclones, assume hellions at the same time (wall your natural or at least be generally ready to defend a runby), then assume it could be cloak banshee too. generally this means defensive robo play into some warp prism counter-harass, although i understand phoenix is strong as well
GSL super tournament was full of high level proxy PvT, so check out clips of those series for ideas from pros on how to approach the proxy nightmare
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On October 05 2018 22:04 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2018 23:38 Tempest wrote:
Posted this in toss help me thread, but that thread can take a while to get a response, so ill post here as well:
Assuming scout after 14 pylon in PvT, you scout they are proxying, have taken both gasses. What gas count should you expect to be missing from refineries in order to determine they are proxying cyclones? does fast double gas guarantee cyclone rush or could it be something else? no, you can't just count gas and know what T is doing, that's part of the problem everyone is talking about right now with T proxying every single game. terrans have gone insane with build-hiding. even if you scout rax and depot block with no factory he could just be hiding the factory in the back of his base, then he could make hellions and cloak banshees. or it could indeed be proxy cyclone. even if you scout proxy factory you still don't know if there's a proxy starport, etc. etc. etc. a decent rule of thumb on ladder is that if you don't know what terran is opening then assume it's the worst thing. assume cyclones, assume hellions at the same time (wall your natural or at least be generally ready to defend a runby), then assume it could be cloak banshee too. generally this means defensive robo play into some warp prism counter-harass, although i understand phoenix is strong as well GSL super tournament was full of high level proxy PvT, so check out clips of those series for ideas from pros on how to approach the proxy nightmare
Thank you much. Watched super tournament, as did apparently my terran ladder opponents because I played probably 6/10 PvTs with proxies the same day haha. Just didn't know if there had been any identified gas counts, etc.
Ive switched to SG opener in PvT and its been helpful. Thanks for the tips!
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this question probably doesn't fit perfectly in this thread, however, i can't find another place to put it.
any clues as to whether or not GSL 2019 is happening ?
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France12936 Posts
Not really strategy but I think this is where I should ask.
If I buy for example this year warchest for terrans, will I have access to 2018 WCS players portraits?
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Been playing a bit recently at around 5.2k mmr - it's really frustrating that people execute poorly-thought-out builds poorly - at what mmr will my opponents be decent?
I'm trying to figure out whether I want to play or not
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On November 05 2018 03:50 krnbrg89 wrote:
Been playing a bit recently at around 5.2k mmr - it's really frustrating that people execute poorly-thought-out builds poorly - at what mmr will my opponents be decent?
I'm trying to figure out whether I want to play or not
Are you referrring to yourself or to others? If it's others, then why aren't you winning more and reaching a point where you are on equal footing with others?
If it's yoiurself, then I can actually address your question.
The higher you go, the more your opponent can really capitalize on your mistakes. This means that you almost can never do THE build you wanted to do. You are always being interrupted in small ways by the build the other player wanted to do. This causes delays, flaws, etc.
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super resources from wiki - i liked these resources
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What happened to Gateway upgrades in PvZ ? I just watched some of the Stats V Serral games and it felt so strange. Stats kept going stargate robo council archives 3 bases in some variations before he ever laid down a forge. Back when i was playing Upgrades were EVERYTHING and now they seem to be completely irrelevant.
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On November 07 2018 19:06 alpenrahm wrote:
What happened to Gateway upgrades in PvZ ? I just watched some of the Stats V Serral games and it felt so strange. Stats kept going stargate robo council archives 3 bases in some variations before he ever laid down a forge. Back when i was playing Upgrades were EVERYTHING and now they seem to be completely irrelevant.
Attack upgrades are still relevant in PvZ. The reason it's not the first thing invested into is that it's not a priority. The priority is to get your tech going first, as stargate is the safest way to secure a third at a reasonable time and get crucial scouting info. Second priority is to archon drop to apply pressure and find out if you need to rush storm for hydras or a second robo for roaches. Once that's taken care of, you can get dem juicy attack upgrades.
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I always use in micro A and M >
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Are there any in game chat channels or discord channels where I can find people willing to practice? I'm having trouble finding people to practice specific matchups with.
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Are protoss shield upgrades useful in any way? What is their actual effect? I've only played about 150 games as protoss but I've never researched shield upgrades.
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On January 25 2019 10:18 White__Hart wrote:
Are protoss shield upgrades useful in any way? What is their actual effect? I've only played about 150 games as protoss but I've never researched shield upgrades.
Not only useful, they're kinda required if you're going to play against better opponents. They work the same way as any armor upgrade, and is just as important. Archons especially is just going to melt without them.
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On January 25 2019 10:18 White__Hart wrote:
Are protoss shield upgrades useful in any way? What is their actual effect? I've only played about 150 games as protoss but I've never researched shield upgrades.
They work like armor upgrades but they affect the shield portion of unit HP instead.
The main reasons that come to mind for you to upgrade them instead of armor would be:
+ Show Spoiler +1; Shield upgrades affect the shields on buildings as well which can add crucial EHP especially against units with weak/fast attacks like marines and zerglings. This includes cannons and shield batteries for your defensive engagements and any building that you wouldn't want to lose to a runby or a drop.
2; Shields regenerate over time and can be healed which is more beneficial for units like blink stalkers and archons which will have opportunity to regenerate their shields and when using shield batteries to restore shields.
3; If you were using a mixed unit comp - there's no such thing as ground shields and air shields, there is only one shield upgrade which affects everything
Armor has advantages as well:
+ Show Spoiler +Shields don't give a base damage reduction but stuff often has 1 base armor which adds to the damage reduction and makes an armor upgrade lead of 1 or 2 upgrades more relatively impactful - reducing damage from 3 to 2 is more important than reducing it from 4 to 3.
Some key units like zealots have much more HP than shields so armor upgrades affect twice as much of their total health pool.
EMP can knock out shields on whole chunks of your army which would leave a player with high shield upgrades and no/low armor upgrades defenseless. This is a pretty bad situation in general but you're extra screwed if you went for like +3 attack, +0 def, +3 shields.
Armor upgrades are 1.5x cheaper than Shield upgrades.
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Averaging around 150apm. Is this the reason my game has plateaued in platinum league?
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United Kingdom20333 Posts
No, although increasing your effective APM (having the right actions where and when you need them) is one avenue for improvement
building more workers in the early-midgame is an easy bet as well
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Are there only Terrans right now? 5 out of 5 placements were vs Terran o.O
Finally played some 1v1 again (last time was probably 2 years ago)
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United Kingdom20333 Posts
My recent games have been 10 protoss, 4 terran and 3 zerg
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