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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 14:34:54
October 31 2013 14:31 GMT
#16181
Excludos is right.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8264 Posts
October 31 2013 18:12 GMT
#16182
On October 31 2013 22:43 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 01:01 Excludos wrote:
On October 29 2013 00:52 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
A question I've been wondering about - How much of APM is actually spam? Even if you don't spam in the early game, how much APM is really needed? There are only so many important/accurate actions needed in a game right?


Its actually opposite. If you look away from the spam in the beginning, apm automatically gets faster as you get better. This isn't because you click on more unnecessary stuff, but rather because you're doing more at the same time. The 300+apm pro players have isn't because they spam a lot, its because they do a lot of stuff really really fast.


I have to ask this again. Was watching a GM protoss stream, and 10+ minutes into the game, most of what this player was doing was just toggling through their hotkeys and groups over and over again. And not going to each and producing something like an upgrade or a unit, but spamming the hotkeys for whatever reason. It made no sense to me. He did lose the game too...


Hard to tell without having seen it of course, but what you might be seeing as spam is usually something productive. Pro players like to toggle through hotkeys, especially building hotkeys, a lot to constantly check up on their production. There are also a lot of hotkey configuration with units. Every time a new unit comes out it needs adding to a hotkey, sometimes two, and different units to different hotkeys of course and etc. It feels really weird to me that a GM player would just sit there and spam for no reason 10 min into the game..Unless he was practicing. Dunno why he'd do that on the ladder then
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 00:07:46
October 31 2013 23:50 GMT
#16183
Im in a tournament, there is everything from bronze to master players here.

Im a top 8 silver leauge random player.

What can i do to maximise my chances to winning?
Currently im using SC2planner.com to not mess up any build orders and doing them perfectly even tho without it im worse.

Is cheese a good idea? Just doing ridiculus builds all day long?
PvT 5 minute oracle cheese
PvP 5 minute oracle cheese
PvZ ???
TvT Reaper proxy
TvP Reaper proxy
TvZ http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/8_Marine_SCV_Rush
ZvT Early baneling/zergling bust
ZvP 6-10 pool???
ZvZ 8 pool + 2 spine crawlers in their base

You got some good suggestions on what im gonna do? Also the bracket is Bo3 i think.
btw its a Tournament at Hazard http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/List_of_Hazard_LAN_Events

DONT READ THIS PPL FROM HAZARD =(
Legalize young players IEM! Accept Maru!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20338 Posts
November 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#16184
tournament

master players

silver leauge random player


Your goal should be to have fun and learn, not to win. With MMR at the bottom of gold league, you are better than 28% of active players on the ladder system, but bottom of masters puts them better than 98% of the ladder system. You'd be outclassed to an unwinnable extent against so many tournament-goers that your best shot is probably to try to win some if and while you're still matching with people who are remotely on your level, before you get knocked out in later rounds
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
November 01 2013 01:03 GMT
#16185
I am (and play against) people who are above noob level and below high skilled level. Wards are common but trilanes are never seen. In this skilled level of game, as omiknight, I get silenced often and feel as though I am worthless. Any value in getting a linken's? I'm thinking of linken's after my soul ring and mana boots but before my mech or pipe. Thoughts?
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
November 01 2013 02:47 GMT
#16186
I think you're in the wrong forum, ReligionLOL.
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
November 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#16187
On November 01 2013 10:03 ReligionLOL wrote:
I am (and play against) people who are above noob level and below high skilled level. Wards are common but trilanes are never seen. In this skilled level of game, as omiknight, I get silenced often and feel as though I am worthless. Any value in getting a linken's? I'm thinking of linken's after my soul ring and mana boots but before my mech or pipe. Thoughts?

Hmm, what custom map in SC2 are you playing?
Legalize young players IEM! Accept Maru!
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
November 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#16188
On November 01 2013 08:50 Jensbond wrote:
Im in a tournament, there is everything from bronze to master players here.

Im a top 8 silver leauge random player.

What can i do to maximise my chances to winning?
Currently im using SC2planner.com to not mess up any build orders and doing them perfectly even tho without it im worse.

Is cheese a good idea? Just doing ridiculus builds all day long?
PvT 5 minute oracle cheese
PvP 5 minute oracle cheese
PvZ ???
TvT Reaper proxy
TvP Reaper proxy
TvZ http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/8_Marine_SCV_Rush
ZvT Early baneling/zergling bust
ZvP 6-10 pool???
ZvZ 8 pool + 2 spine crawlers in their base

You got some good suggestions on what im gonna do? Also the bracket is Bo3 i think.
btw its a Tournament at Hazard http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/List_of_Hazard_LAN_Events

DONT READ THIS PPL FROM HAZARD =(


The odds of you winning are virtually zero. If your goal is to win a tournament you should be practicing long before you even enter a tournament so that you have a better grasp on what builds work, and more importantly how to execute them like you're reading them from the back of your eyelids.
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
November 02 2013 19:59 GMT
#16189
On November 03 2013 03:14 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 08:50 Jensbond wrote:
Im in a tournament, there is everything from bronze to master players here.

Im a top 8 silver leauge random player.

What can i do to maximise my chances to winning?
Currently im using SC2planner.com to not mess up any build orders and doing them perfectly even tho without it im worse.

Is cheese a good idea? Just doing ridiculus builds all day long?
PvT 5 minute oracle cheese
PvP 5 minute oracle cheese
PvZ ???
TvT Reaper proxy
TvP Reaper proxy
TvZ http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/8_Marine_SCV_Rush
ZvT Early baneling/zergling bust
ZvP 6-10 pool???
ZvZ 8 pool + 2 spine crawlers in their base

You got some good suggestions on what im gonna do? Also the bracket is Bo3 i think.
btw its a Tournament at Hazard http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/List_of_Hazard_LAN_Events

DONT READ THIS PPL FROM HAZARD =(


The odds of you winning are virtually zero. If your goal is to win a tournament you should be practicing long before you even enter a tournament so that you have a better grasp on what builds work, and more importantly how to execute them like you're reading them from the back of your eyelids.

Yeah, well, i acually thaught id have no chance in life of winning at all. My goal was really to just take off 1 map off someone, but that didint happend, not even agianst the top 8 gold player i played agianst. ^_^

Heres the results btw http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hazard_LAN/Winter_2013
Legalize young players IEM! Accept Maru!
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
November 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#16190
On November 02 2013 09:37 Jensbond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 10:03 ReligionLOL wrote:
I am (and play against) people who are above noob level and below high skilled level. Wards are common but trilanes are never seen. In this skilled level of game, as omiknight, I get silenced often and feel as though I am worthless. Any value in getting a linken's? I'm thinking of linken's after my soul ring and mana boots but before my mech or pipe. Thoughts?

Hmm, what custom map in SC2 are you playing?


Not a sc2 custom game. He's playing Dota 2 and stumbled on the wrong simple questions thread.
Breakersc2
Profile Joined November 2013
2 Posts
November 04 2013 03:54 GMT
#16191
In this scenario I have an attack force sitting outside the enemy's ramp.

My question is this: How do I add the units to the control group while they are en route to the ramp. Is there a way to add them to control groups without manually doing it?
Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
November 04 2013 04:00 GMT
#16192
No, the only way to add something to a control group is manually.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 05:09:58
November 04 2013 04:18 GMT
#16193
On November 04 2013 12:54 Breakersc2 wrote:
In this scenario I have an attack force sitting outside the enemy's ramp.

My question is this: How do I add the units to the control group while they are en route to the ramp. Is there a way to add them to control groups without manually doing it?


There is one way, you can use the select all units hotkey (F1 by default) and just re-bind to your main hotkey, but you're obviously going to run into issues if you have multiple control groups, or have units you want else where. The best way to do it, and the way which most pros do (assuming that you are terran) is to just amove/rally them to your general army area and hotkey them manually as they arrive -- not as they're made or while they're still traveling.
Breakersc2
Profile Joined November 2013
2 Posts
November 04 2013 04:42 GMT
#16194
On November 04 2013 13:18 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 12:54 Breakersc2 wrote:
In this scenario I have an attack force sitting outside the enemy's ramp.

My question is this: How do I add the units to the control group while they are en route to the ramp. Is there a way to add them to control groups without manually doing it?


There is one way, you can use the select all units hotkey (F1 by default) and just re-bind to your main hotkey, but you're obviously going to run into issues if you have multiple control groups, or have units you want else where. The best way to do it, and the way which most pros do (assuming that you are terran) is to just amove/rally them to your general army area and hotkey them manually as they arrive.


Thanks for the hasty response. It makes sense to do it this way.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
November 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#16195
How in GOD'S NAME do I move and shoot with the mothership core like the pros do ;-; Mine always gimps out and feels like it has to stop before shooting. Is it just simple "stutter step" micro that I havn't gotten the timing to yet or is there a trick lol
SooYoung-Noona!
Peyden
Profile Joined October 2013
Sweden5 Posts
November 05 2013 09:58 GMT
#16196
Im sure its not a bug, but why do i not get a promotion to plat? I mean, im constantly beating plat and even diamond players, but im still not getting promoted. I have 1,191 points, Won 270, lost 249, ratio 52.02%. Isn't this enough?

Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
November 05 2013 10:44 GMT
#16197
Well, for one, the ladder is locked now (source). Moreover, just keep playing, don't worry. If you're good enough it will promote you eventually.
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 05 2013 11:22 GMT
#16198
On November 04 2013 12:54 Breakersc2 wrote:
In this scenario I have an attack force sitting outside the enemy's ramp.

My question is this: How do I add the units to the control group while they are en route to the ramp. Is there a way to add them to control groups without manually doing it?


what do you mean by manually?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
November 07 2013 16:42 GMT
#16199
Is this Grubby on the train in the first scene ?

perspicaciousinnate
Profile Joined November 2012
45 Posts
November 07 2013 17:29 GMT
#16200
How to Pick Up Marines

Is there a fast way to pick up marines with medivacs? If i have a medium sized army and quickly need to pick up my army, I select my entire army with marines and medivacs. Then, I right click my medivacs one by one.

However, almost all the time, I also accidently right click marines and medivacs. What results is the pick up isn't fast and sometimes some marines don't even get picked up.

Is there some secret way to quickly pick up marines?
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