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ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
June 18 2012 11:52 GMT
#13001
What is the basic build order for Oz PvT FFE? When does he takes a 3rd?
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
.Mthex-
Profile Joined May 2011
United States168 Posts
June 19 2012 05:58 GMT
#13002
On June 18 2012 20:52 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
What is the basic build order for Oz PvT FFE? When does he takes a 3rd?


Thats not really simple question that could get a simple answer... go through some Oz replays and find the timings..
"If you tricked him, then he is tricked" - Artosis
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 08:22:59
June 19 2012 06:20 GMT
#13003
I dont mean for this to seem like QQ at all or better yet, its not even a issue but a simple question. Why does it seem like toss and zerg players get rewarded for bad macro? As a terran player, whenever i dont spend my money... i lose. I noticed that when zerg and toss players dont spend their money, they can still win as long as they just did constant injects and made gateways due to how their races work (i.e mass warp ins, larva injects). Why is is that way?

User was warned for this post

^^ cant believe I was warned for asking an honest question. I dont think larva injects nor warp in is op in the least bit, nor do I think that this was a bad question. mods on this site do the most...
ok
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
June 19 2012 07:02 GMT
#13004
On June 19 2012 15:20 AeroEffect wrote:
I dont mean for this to seem like QQ at all or better yet, its not even a issue but a simple question. Why does it seem like toss and zerg players get rewarded for bad macro? As a terran player, whenever i dont spend my money... i lose. I noticed that when zerg and toss players dont spend their money, they can still win as long as they just did constant injects and made gateways due to how their races work (i.e mass warp ins, larva injects). Why is is that way?


It's that way because you're not punishing them for it. Gateways and injects have a fairly long cooldown, so if you play properly they won't be able to warp in enough reinforcements from the gateways they have unless you allow them to get a ridicilous amount of gateways. Upgrades are far from instant, and neither are stuff built out of robos or starports. It doesn't matter if they're bad at spending money if you're bad at exploiting that
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 08:12:45
June 19 2012 07:03 GMT
#13005
On June 19 2012 15:20 AeroEffect wrote:
I dont mean for this to seem like QQ at all or better yet, its not even a issue but a simple question. Why does it seem like toss and zerg players get rewarded for bad macro? As a terran player, whenever i dont spend my money... i lose. I noticed that when zerg and toss players dont spend their money, they can still win as long as they just did constant injects and made gateways due to how their races work (i.e mass warp ins, larva injects). Why is is that way?


This is something that constantly gets leveled at the race that isn't you, it's QQ in it's purest form, the only argument you could make for someone getting rewarded for having bad macro is actually when Terran has additional scans for cloaked units because they didn't call down mules, no race plays more optimally with bad macro then with good macro.

With that said, unspent resources aren't the only reason you'd lose a game. maybe they made better decisions, got good engages, had a better unit composition, maybe they had more resources to begin with and though you both spent equally poorly he just had more. Spending your money is just one part, and an important part no doubt, but just a single aspect of what you need to do to win the game.
H0verMyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland19 Posts
June 19 2012 07:06 GMT
#13006
I HAVE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION! Where can I get replays from DREAMHACK 2012 finals Mana vs DIMAGA?
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
June 19 2012 08:03 GMT
#13007
Hi guys

probably a different question, but is there a list of SC2 servers? All I know is:

NA, EU, SEA, KR/TW.

Total of 4. Am I missing something?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
June 19 2012 08:13 GMT
#13008
On June 19 2012 17:03 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

probably a different question, but is there a list of SC2 servers? All I know is:

NA, EU, SEA, KR/TW.

Total of 4. Am I missing something?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138846

Nope, that's it.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 08:19:39
June 19 2012 08:18 GMT
#13009
On June 19 2012 17:13 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 17:03 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

probably a different question, but is there a list of SC2 servers? All I know is:

NA, EU, SEA, KR/TW.

Total of 4. Am I missing something?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138846

Nope, that's it.


Forgot China http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/ladder/grandmaster

On June 19 2012 16:06 H0verMyr wrote:
I HAVE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION! Where can I get replays from DREAMHACK 2012 finals Mana vs DIMAGA?


They're not released yet.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
June 19 2012 08:19 GMT
#13010
That's odd - why isn't China listed in the Server Status list?
The frumious Bandersnatch
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 08:24:50
June 19 2012 08:24 GMT
#13011
On June 19 2012 17:19 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
That's odd - why isn't China listed in the Server Status list?


China didn't launch with the rest of the regions, the post was posted on the 27th of July 2010, I don't think China got wings of liberty until April 2011
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
June 19 2012 09:10 GMT
#13012
I play zerg and I played against a terran who expoed, but did a 8 minute timing with around 15 marines and 3 siege tanks.

I lost to it because I had no idea about this timing... If you scout a siege tank at the 7 minute mark, should you just assume hes going for a really early push?
Derp
H0verMyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland19 Posts
June 19 2012 13:20 GMT
#13013
where can i get replays from sc 2 dreamhack final? PLZ tell me


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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
June 19 2012 13:29 GMT
#13014
On June 19 2012 22:20 H0verMyr wrote:
where can i get replays from sc 2 dreamhack final? PLZ tell me

Stop asking the same question. Like Dingobloo just responded, they're not out yet.
The frumious Bandersnatch
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
June 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#13015
On June 19 2012 14:58 .Mthex- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 20:52 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
What is the basic build order for Oz PvT FFE? When does he takes a 3rd?


Thats not really simple question that could get a simple answer... go through some Oz replays and find the timings..

I just can't seem to lay hand on a replay where he plays this build. Wouldn't asked here if I had 1.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
NeroPegasus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
June 19 2012 16:57 GMT
#13016
How do you know when a terran is going to drop? Is it simply when you see medivacs being built, or is there something more? I usually build turrets when I see a medivac out of their starport, but I'm afraid I'm overreacting...
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 17:42:15
June 19 2012 17:35 GMT
#13017
On June 20 2012 01:57 NeroPegasus wrote:
How do you know when a terran is going to drop? Is it simply when you see medivacs being built, or is there something more? I usually build turrets when I see a medivac out of their starport, but I'm afraid I'm overreacting...


Yeah, I would say you are overreacting. Making Turrets in TvT for early-mid game is only for Banshee defense, in the late - later game stages where it's a split map situation you can make a turret-line all along your side. Play accordingly, if your opponent is dropping very often then make a Sensor tower and some turrets. Sensor towers are the way to go imo.

Also depends on your army composition. Bio comes naturally with Medivacs, so dropping is always a threat - scouting his army is important here to keep tabs on where it is. Also if you're playing Mech vs Bio you're more susceptible to drop antics, having the less mobile army. If that is the case, then plopping a Sensor tower or two in your base/natural and then adding turrets, and perhaps some vikings would do it.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
June 19 2012 22:27 GMT
#13018
As a zerg, what are the major timings I should be worried about Protoss and Terran hitting?
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
June 19 2012 23:23 GMT
#13019
On June 20 2012 07:27 Apollo_Shards wrote:
As a zerg, what are the major timings I should be worried about Protoss and Terran hitting?

I think you might be looking for the complicated questions, complicated answers thread.

To explain: Your question is so general as to be meaningless. How many bases does the Protoss or Terran have? What have you scouted? How many bases do you have? What build are you doing? For example, if Protoss FFEs, you take a fast third in response, and Protoss goes into a fast third off of four gates and a robo, you should be worried about a 3-Colossus timing, but that timing simply doesn't exist if you went for aggression instead of taking a fast third.
The frumious Bandersnatch
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 19 2012 23:31 GMT
#13020
Can I somehow change my color in ladder games ? I don't like green t.t
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