Ghost,,, in TvT or TvZ - Page 2

even with mass infestor there's just the option of straight killing them.

On January 12 2011 13:32 DeCiBle wrote:
Think about the special abilities they have. EMP is amazing vs toss, but otherwise not useful, unless they go for something stupid like mass infestors where the EMP will knock out all their infestors' energy. But still, even with mass infestor there's just the option of straight killing them.

Snipe I think could be good, but it wasn't well implemented. Everything snipe works to hard-counter or deal with is already countered by either the ghost's other abilities, or other T units, making ghosts not cost-efficient. Immortals are best suited to be taken out with EMP, as is any other high-priority snipe-able toss unit; Ultralisks are already hard-countered by MMM when in good ratio/position. Other snipe-able targets are handily taken care of with marauders or tanks. The only real use I see for snipe is against high-priority air targets like broodlords. But again: vikings; if you're going MMM, you already have access to vikings, so you can just pop out a few of those.

Only real big use I see from the ghost in any non TvP match up (at least in terms of cost-efficiency from ghosts) is cloak and nukes. Mainly vs Z, because of the general lack of detection if you open with BIO, as opposed to banshee rush. (you early banshees, most Z's get detection by default, not so much if you open bio or early mech until later, when they expect shees)

It's a surprise tactic like the nydus worm; not necessarily cost-efficient unless it lands.

On January 13 2011 04:08 Penatronic wrote:


Emp is useless except vs shields? Killing energy and detecting cloaked makes it useful vs every race at one point or another.

And who the hell is going to snipe an ultra or broodlord? Those are the worst snipe targets in the game. You want to target high cost/low hp units. Not something that will take 15 snipe shots to kill.... Jesus. Ideal snipe targets are Stuff like infestors, mutas, high Templar, etc.

Though not generally necessary ghosts do some serious damage to light targets, comboed with marines you will torch any light units... Mix them with marauders and medics and you have a seriously hard to kill well balanced long range infantry force, albeit very gas intensive.