Why are queens not used more often for defense? - Page 3

eth3n

718 Posts

January 03 2011 00:27 GMT

#41

Like others have said, imho queens have two legit non-transfuse related defensive abilities as far as ground v ground.

1) Blocking ramps - This is quite awesome, although mostly used zvz
2) Ring around the rosy and praying to survive/delay because for some reason protoss like to waste time with their early zealots, and queens are everyone's big target

Komsa

United States99 Posts

January 03 2011 00:28 GMT

#42

I like a 3 queen open, and then not afraid to spam them once ultras or broodlords are about to take the field.

Here's a rep of the economy build popular here with 3 queens holding a 2 rax bunker rush from a 2400+ Terran, and then late game dream army.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2kusqgtl8k1l2l5

Arisen

United States2382 Posts

January 03 2011 02:54 GMT

#43

Didn't read the rest of the posts, but unless you're build is meant to use queens for defense (something dimaga plays around with), it's very inneficcient to do. Queens are expensive for their supply against anything but early air. In a build with the express goal of getting X thing out at X time, queens as defense will throw your timings off. That said, dimaga has indeed been successful using queens as defense, but he practices those timings and knows just what he can get away with. Experiment with it, you might like it, you might not, it's all about finding stuff you like to play with.

That being said, queens are rarely used in regular builds as anything other than emergency air control because, quite simply, you can't afford to lose your inject queens early game.

FlaminGinjaNinja

United Kingdom879 Posts

January 03 2011 12:17 GMT

#44

I registered to TL just so i could post here! :D

I think Queens definatly have their uses in defence early game, but also late game. I played a HUGE 4v4 last night. Z+P+T+T v P+T+T+T. I got rushed at the start by 3 of them and got destroyed with only 2 queens. I ran my drones away and rebuilt in allies naturals (yes both of them)

Long story short the late game came with me having demolished 2 of them and starting on the 3rd when 10 battlecrusers popped out in an allies base coming for me.... FUUUUU.....

I had NO gas for defences and ended up spamming queens, luckly allies had anti air and i didnt have to use them. Final push comes, marines and 9 battlecrusers vs 33 queens, some zerglings and 2 corruptors.

Edit:

Found the reply of the above game ^

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/124212-4v4-terran-protoss-zerg-lava-flow

Mass Roach at 23mins

Ally notices mass queens at 50mins

Trap my zerglings on the island FAIL :@ 53mins

MASS QUEEN FIGHT 58mins

Jayrod

1820 Posts

January 03 2011 19:25 GMT

#45

You guys are also forgetting that queens don't take up your limiting resource, larvae

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