number 1 thing i do is to do viking->raven instead of banshee and throw the viking all over the map to make him bring the overlords back to his base or lose them. then the raven is used to push back the creep with some poking moves. finally, get medivacs and then begin dropping.

Twaxter

Canada190 Posts

December 28 2010 20:20 GMT

#24

On December 29 2010 02:09 rich-. wrote:
plz dont harass zerg, its annoying

hahaha!
If you see Twaxter in ladder, please do this^

Blyadischa

419 Posts

December 28 2010 20:23 GMT

#25

I personally don't harass, I prefer to pressure. I do the (if I'm not in close positons, in which case I 2 rax bunker rush), what I consider, standard 4/5 marine hellion push followed by cloaked banshees, but don't harass after that, just pressure, contain, and deny bases.

Twaxter

Canada190 Posts

December 28 2010 20:27 GMT

#26

Helion Drops are lethal, vikings attacking overlords, Nuking, Dropping in different places, behind mineral line stim, Tank siege scans (high ground low ground stuff), Auto Turrets, Reapers, bunker rush/slow down FE, Banshee harass, lots of stuff man. It just matters how well you execute them, and how much you make your small advantage work.

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

December 28 2010 20:49 GMT

#27

how 'bout agressive 1/1/1? Bunker rush into hellions into cloaked banshees. Works all the time from what I've seen, and you can play the switcheroo game to get any upgrades you need on the way.

jameschang112

28 Posts

December 30 2010 15:29 GMT

#28

There's definitely a few ways to harass Zerg.

1. Build a viking, set it on patrol and shift click many places for it to go. Set it and forget it. It will now attack whatever overlords it finds. Just don't send it to his base.

2. Do a banshee harass...research cloak, then 10 seconds later, the banshee, usually cloak will be done as the banshee reaches his base. Park your banshee near his minerals, keep an eye on him while you use hot keys to macro more units.

3. Build 2 hellions, perhaps with a reactor switch, then micro his drones, all the while macroing with hot keys for more units.

esre

Ireland109 Posts

December 30 2010 15:36 GMT

#29

I find one of the best ways to harrass is actually just the threat of an attack.
Moving to the base of the ramp then retreating to safety forces larva to be used on aggressive units instead of drones. Forcing zerg into spending money and larva while not quite as good as kill off drones is still a decent way to annoy the zerg , and it can be done at nearly any stage.
Try building a bunker near his base , let him scout it then salvage it.. usually causes some panic xD

1Lamb1Rice

United States435 Posts

December 30 2010 17:49 GMT

#30

On December 29 2010 02:23 PhiliBiRD wrote:
i open with a few marines and hellion to poke (unless i scouted pool first then im more cautious).

followed by blue flame drop expand or non blue flame + viking harass into expand.
i choose whatever i feel will be strongest given the map and map positions. sometimes its better to go for a timing push however. cloaked banshees isnt a favorite for me vs Zerg, i usually will make 1 to deny a 3rd/map control but thats usually about it.

I'll vouch for this. It totally destroyed me a bunch of times. Damnit phili, i want a re.

Komsa

United States99 Posts

December 30 2010 20:11 GMT

#31

Economic 2 rax + feints, into a good harass tech seems easy and effective.

Edit: Oh, and I like to block the bottom ramp with first depot/rax. The lack of information is like early harassment.

MorsCerta

United States234 Posts

December 30 2010 21:20 GMT

#32

2 rax fake into FE into Hellion harass into either hellion drop or bancheese cloaked or not.

Really fucking awful to deal with, requires a lot of attention and APM to deal with. Terrans that harass and then park their main army outside of my base but in vision fuck with my mind. Fucks me up hardcore and I'm 2500D.

I much prefer terrans that play standard. Keep it to MMM drops or Marine/Tank or Mech play please. I hate being the one not harassing.

On December 29 2010 05:49 Zephirdd wrote:
how 'bout agressive 1/1/1? Bunker rush into hellions into cloaked banshees. Works all the time from what I've seen, and you can play the switcheroo game to get any upgrades you need on the way.

This as well. Sucks.

Mr_Kyo

United States269 Posts

December 30 2010 21:26 GMT

#33

Open reactor helion (gas before racks). Spit out 4 helions and then build a CC. Opponent will have to rush roaches to effectively counter it (or build 2 or 3 spines early). Either way, your opponent will not have out-macroed you in the early game and you will be on equal footing midgame. Do not use on Steppes of War or Shakuras as the expansions are well guarded. Great on Scrap station and jungle basin. Pitfall is that is easily scouted; however, that doesn't mean you'll be behind.

endline

100 Posts

December 30 2010 21:30 GMT

#34

On December 29 2010 02:09 rich-. wrote:
plz dont harass zerg, its annoying

best quote ever.

do you just stop with banshee harass?

the best part of this game is that no one is always safe everywhere. unless there is an excess of queens, pulling them away from their larva inject while sniping at a building is great, especially if you pull em off creep. bahsees are also great at sniping whatever may be sitting at the xel naga tower(s)

also dont let it die without trying to get away. bring them back to base and repair. use it to scout, not just the base, but newly formed creep tumors, spot their overlords so you can pick em off later. im also more in favor of hellion drops, or run bys at expos.

zerg for quite a while is exposed to harassment, the good folks at blizzard must agree that pressure, harassment and aggression are the best ways T can stay in the game.

Xeken

United States77 Posts

December 30 2010 21:47 GMT

#35

If nothing else, I think 1-2 vikings is essential. Putting a Z in the blind is huge because now he can't just make his army only when he deems it necessary. Not to mention it will make drops actually usable.

itsben

435 Posts

December 30 2010 22:06 GMT

#36

Ive seen trump follow up his 5 marine and 1 helion push with marauders and helions. Seems decent at punishing the zerg for droning too hard. And he expands while doing it.

EGLzGaMeR

United States1867 Posts

December 30 2010 22:32 GMT

#37

I try to keep pressure on zerg in the beginning with some marine pressure (not going all-in with scv's). Then i kinda go into a macro mode where i will expand and start back mass harassing when i get medivac's. trying to play straight up macro game without harass vs. zerg will end in fail.

Here is a few reps

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=177443
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=177446
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=177448

hope this helps!

vaLentine88

United States61 Posts

December 30 2010 22:37 GMT

#38

personally I have the most problems with blue fame hellion transition into mech. If done early enough, you should be able to get a couple hellions against only zerglings, which is just a joke. It forces the zerg to get roaches or throw down spines to protect his mineral line.

You then expand behind it and transition to 3 factory tank/thor. Save your hellions to roast lings, and slap a reactor on your barracks to pump out a timing push. Throw up missile turrets as necessary.

StarBrift

Sweden1761 Posts

December 30 2010 22:38 GMT

#39

Harass is generally beter for midgame when you allready established an economy and need to pull ahead. I would rather 2 rax pressure early game and force lings / hit timings where you can deal damage while building up towards the midgame. You can drop harass with medivacs later in the game to get an edge.

danielsan

Romania399 Posts

December 30 2010 22:52 GMT

#40

i could give you an advice to always open aggressively and delay hatch by:

bunker rush
2 bunker block
ebay on expo

depending on map and timings on pool

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