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TurtlePerson2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States218 Posts
November 28 2010 14:39 GMT
#21
The reason that people generally don't use BCs against Zerg is because of Hydralisks. They do good damage to BCs very quickly.

The other thing you're forgetting is that the larva mechanism allows the Zerg player to build a lot of a unit at once. If you get five vikings on the field, he can get 10 corruptors quicker than you can get to ten vikings.

During the Viking stage of this plan, you're incredibly vulnerable to fungal growth on the vikings. 1 FG on a group of eight vikings could mean certain death as a few queens slowly pick them off.
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Gegenschein
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada107 Posts
November 28 2010 14:55 GMT
#22
On November 28 2010 23:16 Damaskinos wrote:
It gets annoying to hear this over and over again. This is wrong! Besides my own testings, here is a thread on TL [R] mass vikings against zerg seems viable?.

Besides the cost efficiency of the Vikings, there are more benefits from aerial dominance for Terran. I leave it to you fantasy.


If you surprise your Zerg opponent with mass vikings, and he reacts with mass mutas (we've seen a game like that in the GSL), the Zerg should probably lose. But the Zerg is in no way forced to go mutas, and won't if he's smart; that's the problem. He can go corruptors with the same structure he morphed for his mutas, or put down a hydra den, and render those starports mostly ineffective. Let's not forget that going mass anything-that's-up-there-in-the-tech-tree is a big liability for Terran (or Protoss), while it isn't for Zerg. Even it was proven that vikings are cost effective against mutas, the fact would remain that 3 starport w/ reactor = 600 min + 300 gas, while a spire is 200 min + 200 gas.

Plus, fungal growth on that viking flock is so juicy.
You and whose 200/200 fully upgraded army?
Hemling
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden93 Posts
November 28 2010 15:01 GMT
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vikings is not a cost effective answer to mutas and it seems like a really risky build to go blindly.


It gets annoying to hear this over and over again. This is wrong! Besides my own testings, here is a thread on TL [R] mass vikings against zerg seems viable?.

Besides the cost efficiency of the Vikings, there are more benefits from aerial dominance for Terran. I leave it to you fantasy.




ok you might be right my bad, but i still doubt that the gold lvl playing OP will have an easier time against zerg if he tries to go air.. maybe against players one league below but i dont see how a game will end up with a 24 viking vs 24 muta confrontation. also, u might want to rephrase "mass vikings against mass muta zerg seems viable?" how long does it take to build a hydra den? 40RTsec?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/246845/1/Hemligt/
Gegenschein
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada107 Posts
November 28 2010 15:02 GMT
#24
On November 28 2010 23:32 nalgene wrote:
ravens could help render mutalisks useless for the first 2-3 seconds and you should have rines/tanks to help out
you can bring scvs for bunkers/turrets/auto repair and camp outside
hydras wouldn't really do much with the tanks under

wouldn't it be better if you had ground army instead before you do some sort of transition into what you have in the OP? that'd be safer


PDDs are usually not that good against mutas, because they can disengage combat so quickly. You'd really have to corner the Zerg army to make it effective.
You and whose 200/200 fully upgraded army?
MacRoManceR
Profile Joined August 2010
United States49 Posts
November 28 2010 20:02 GMT
#25
On November 28 2010 19:34 Setev wrote:
Pls post replays. We wanna see them and then point out exactly your flaws.

Besides, have you watched pro replays? From what I have seen, you use marauder block and tank splash to pop banelings. If worse come to worst (Zerg did not a-move their banelings) load up marines into medivac and retreat, letting your tanks and marauders kill and tank banelings.



Hey here is one game i lost against practice partner.
[url blocked]
I am pretty good with Macro, but when it comes to micro against baneling, i fall behind.


also i never leave my BCs left alone. Always had about 10-15 viking were watching over them

Also watched this GomTV match
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1337

it is similar what i did, but better executed.
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