EPTProxy barracks is a huge issue in TVT - Page 2
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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frogmelter
United States971 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:29 R0YAL wrote: It can go back to bw, whenever you are getting bunker rushed just pull a few workers and intercept the marine. Bunkers arnt useful with nothing in them obv. builds. Yep Just make sure you don't let the marine get in the bunker It's okay if the bunker finishes as long as no marines get in them Reminds me of my ZvT days in BW where proxy BBS kept owning me | ||
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fallore
United States143 Posts
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blitzkrieger
United States512 Posts
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:36 blitzkrieger wrote: [/img]Terran's OP. Toss and Zerg players switch to Terrran. Toss players like to Proxy. Terran now likes to proxy. The answer. Nerf Marauders. This isn't 4chan. Please don't post unrelated pictures. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:35 fallore wrote: scouting early is not "unacceptable," it's a necessity. until you get that through your head you aren't going to stop losing. Yes, it's either have a hard time against cheese or get slightly behind players who scout late and don't cheese. Note that those players will have a hard time by cheese by default so in the end everything works out well. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:35 frogmelter wrote: Yep Just make sure you don't let the marine get in the bunker It's okay if the bunker finishes as long as no marines get in them Reminds me of my ZvT days in BW where proxy BBS kept owning me Unfortunatley it's infinitely harder to kill marines with workers, drones or scvs or probes, in SC2 than SC1. Not moving attack, you get in the way of the marine and your probes to a swinging slide for some reason, and no ranged attack either. I've had like 5 drones try to stop a marine once and fail to get a single hit. All mirrors are like this, not just TvT. Toss can go proxy warpgates, if unscouted you lose. Zerg has it completley in the shitter because of when you cut drones, which is why BW ZvZ was considered the "build order matchup." "4/5 pool < 9 pool < 12 pool < 12 hatch < 4/5 pool." There were more variations of course, such as 9pool speed which beat 12 hatch but 9pool w/o speed doesn't beat it (which is why it's never done). | ||
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HyperDeath
United States64 Posts
also if they proxy in your base and get it off successfully you didnt scout with the scv you used to place your first SD down. If you did, then you would notice that the rax is still building and you could kill the drone making it. if the proxy is outside of his base then use the scv that built the SD to scout his base. if there is no rax in it, then start making a bunker to finish your wall after your rax is done. one marine in a bunker could kill a handful of marines. | ||
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DreamSailor
Canada433 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:36 blitzkrieger wrote: Terran's OP. Toss and Zerg players switch to Terrran. Toss players like to Proxy. Terran now likes to proxy. The answer. Nerf Marauders. Quite hilarious. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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HyperDeath
United States64 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:44 Sanguinarius wrote: Honestly, its better to scout earlier and make up for it later in the game than to never make it to later in the game. ^^ well put | ||
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huyNh
Canada366 Posts
I'm starting to see alot of people open with 10rax in high diamond TvT. I think stalife opens 10rax in TvT as well. Trust me, you aren't as economically behind as you think you'd be opening with a 10rax->10depot. | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
On September 15 2010 05:57 Dente wrote: Easy to stop. One bunker and you are safe. not true. Played a tvt, got proxy marine'd, set up bunker, killed his first bunker and a few marines, he set up a bunker outside of the range of my bunker and in range of my CC and had more marines than me because he had more barracks than me, i lost because my barracks was absolutely useless and it was impossible to set up a new barracks. | ||
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EnderCN
United States499 Posts
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Aikin
Austria532 Posts
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
This way you get free wins basically until someone shows you how to beat it | ||
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RScott
United States15 Posts
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Kimani
United States24 Posts
1. If they were teching they don't have any guys to defend your counter. 2. If they were committing to this proxy pressure then they... dont have those buildings anymore, and don't have any guys to defend your counter. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 15 2010 06:01 blagoonga123 wrote: not true. Played a tvt, got proxy marine'd, set up bunker, killed his first bunker and a few marines, he set up a bunker outside of the range of my bunker and in range of my CC and had more marines than me because he had more barracks than me, i lost because my barracks was absolutely useless and it was impossible to set up a new barracks. Why'd you let him build a bunker next to your cc? | ||
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