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Jeffbelittle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States468 Posts
September 11 2010 03:24 GMT
#1
I know APM is very abritrary; however, I want to get a higher apm and want to hear constructive advice. My average apm ranges from 37-50. That seems quite low to me. Anyways I can hope to improve?
TMTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 03:30:56
September 11 2010 03:30 GMT
#2
Play better. Think more.. Your APM is not a restriction of your fingers or hands, but of your brain to think of what you should be doing.

edit: This comes off insulting, now that I look at it. That's not how I meant it. When you plan more and have a better sense of the game, the APM comes with it.
OdinPimphammer
Profile Joined August 2010
Afghanistan40 Posts
September 11 2010 03:32 GMT
#3
It doesnt come off as insulting man.
hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
September 11 2010 03:38 GMT
#4
getting better at multitasking and know what to do when is the best way to really increase your apm. i was helped heaps by multitasking trainer, in sc2. Also, some flash games can help as well.

generally, its also considered good to spam hot keys, because it can help you get more used to using a larger set of hot keys (1-6, instead of 1-3), which means you can easily select buildings but not have to constantly look down at the keyboard.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
September 11 2010 03:47 GMT
#5
just play more, at this lvl ur apm will improve naturally and chances are very high that its not the apm anyway which is holding u back.
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cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
September 11 2010 03:50 GMT
#6
Theres a new post about this every week. Go search a bit.
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Pfeff
Profile Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 04:02:05
September 11 2010 03:55 GMT
#7
APM is like DPS in world of warcraft. Higher doesn't always mean better; it's only useful if you are doing it correctly. If you do everything you are supposed to do your APM (or DPS) will shoot up by itself
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WhiteComet
Profile Joined July 2010
United States51 Posts
September 11 2010 04:29 GMT
#8
On September 11 2010 12:55 Pfeff wrote:
APM is like DPS in world of warcraft. Higher doesn't always mean better; it's only useful if you are doing it correctly. If you do everything you are supposed to do your APM (or DPS) will shoot up by itself


Ofcourse having High DPS is better!

Here's a basic way to increase your apm.

Remember to...

1. Build Worker
2. Build Supply
3. Build Unit
4. Expand
5. Scout
6. Micro Army
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
September 11 2010 04:32 GMT
#9
Honestly, just try harder. As long as you are consciously trying to achieve a higher apm it will start to go up, especially if its only 50~ now.
911insidejob
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States39 Posts
September 11 2010 04:35 GMT
#10
spam hotkeys
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 11 2010 04:37 GMT
#11
No. Don't even look at your APM. Don't think about it. Just play the game. Be the best you can be. Practice hard, and often.

You'll get faster naturally.
blitzkrieger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States512 Posts
September 11 2010 04:39 GMT
#12
APM is to playing as muscles are to lifting.

If you are new to computer gaming or relatively inexperienced to the demands of hardcore RTS there are tools to increase your awareness, accuracy, speed, etc. In every single sport besides competitive lifting athletes must train outside of their game by lifting weights. This goes for baseball, martial arts, football, cricket, or any other sport. The same goes for video games. Sure you can argue you can increase solely from the sport/game but you can increase individual skills much faster than if you just played the game. For instance I use Reflex TE to train my mouse skills and I have felt noticeably faster after maybe 2 hours of practice.

TL:DR

Read this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151582
VinTeK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States18 Posts
September 11 2010 04:44 GMT
#13
You should just work on your macro first. Micro can come afterwards.
After your macro is pretty solid you should at least be somewhere around 90-100. Then, you can just spam in all of your games for like a week (just playing games to keep your APM high, like 225ish) so that when you return to start playing normally, your APM should be naturally higher. There's a Day[9] VOD out there somewhere that talks about this.
Psionith
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
September 11 2010 05:03 GMT
#14
When I started playing in beta I felt like my hands and fingers were simply not moving fast. Moving the pointer to click something literally felt like it was happening in slow motion. I was averaging about 30-40 apm at that point.

What I did at first was simply hot key my CC on 4,5,6 at the start of the game and start spamming those keys with my left hand while drawing boxes as fast as I could with my mouse hand. It helped my left hand get comfortable with the hotkeys and made me faster and moving and clicking. That got me up to about 60-80 apm average in most games. I still sucked at macro/micro at that point, but I was clicking on things faster and the game just felt a lot more comfortable to play.

Now I'm in Platinum and I'm just beginning to get some good macro habits down. My hands aren't physically moving faster than they were before, but I'm keeping better mental track of things like building gatherers and moving my units more often. So now that I'm starting to combine the mental aspect of remembering when to do things with the physical speed and precision I've build up my apm has risen to a 100+ average.

So basically only worry about apm right now if you're feeling like your hands are physically slow. Spam keys, draw boxes as fast as you can, drum your fingers on things when you're not playing SC. I do tech support for a living and even started making an effort to click through our computer menus as fast as possible. It took me about a month of doing this to start feeling good while I played. Since then my apm has steadily grown as I've improved at the game in general.

In the end it seems like apm itself won't make you better, but being better will give you higher apm which you can then feel better about. Does that make any sense?

I'm dead tired and need some sleep...
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MICHELLE
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)199 Posts
September 11 2010 05:11 GMT
#15
On September 11 2010 12:55 Pfeff wrote:
APM is like DPS in world of warcraft. Higher doesn't always mean better; it's only useful if you are doing it correctly. If you do everything you are supposed to do your APM (or DPS) will shoot up by itself


Are you really comparing APM to DPS?
This dosent make ANY sence at all.
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Bobbeth
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada7 Posts
September 11 2010 05:30 GMT
#16
I think that as long as you're doing all the things you should be doing, high or low APM doesn't matter, unless the things you should be doing is limited by your APM. It may sound odd, but one way to increase your APM is by practicing your macro in a fastest map game. Mass spellcasting units, and avoid a-click units like Void Rays. My suggestion would be to play and challenge yourself as Zerg and mass Queens, as they will keep you busy with Spawn Larva on your Hatcheries/Creep Tumours, and in battle using Transfuse on the ones that are dying. You should eventually start being able to cast spells in battle while keeping unit production in your base.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 11 2010 05:45 GMT
#17
On September 11 2010 13:37 MrBitter wrote:
No. Don't even look at your APM. Don't think about it. Just play the game. Be the best you can be. Practice hard, and often.

You'll get faster naturally.
Precisely this.
Relax and strive to play optimally, and over time you will improve. Don't force yourself - it won't happen by force. Similarly, you don't become a good musician by forcing yourself to play faster and with more precision. You just repeat your routines at the optimal speed you can do well for the moment. One day you realize you play better, and the measurements confirm it.

Your best bet is to strive for quality. Make sure not to waste time, resources, area etc - you have so many goals. You know them already, but it will take a long time, until you can actually be close to optimal on all of them. So take your time with every aspect and try to become as good as you can.
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lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 05:50:02
September 11 2010 05:49 GMT
#18
Try to focus.

Much too often I'm just relaxing while playing SC2, sitting at an average at 50 APM before I realize that I'm slacking and I shoot back to 80 APM for a minute or two and getting my minerals down.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
September 11 2010 06:00 GMT
#19
On September 11 2010 14:03 Psionith wrote:
When I started playing in beta I felt like my hands and fingers were simply not moving fast. Moving the pointer to click something literally felt like it was happening in slow motion. I was averaging about 30-40 apm at that point.

What I did at first was simply hot key my CC on 4,5,6 at the start of the game and start spamming those keys with my left hand while drawing boxes as fast as I could with my mouse hand. It helped my left hand get comfortable with the hotkeys and made me faster and moving and clicking. That got me up to about 60-80 apm average in most games. I still sucked at macro/micro at that point, but I was clicking on things faster and the game just felt a lot more comfortable to play.

Now I'm in Platinum and I'm just beginning to get some good macro habits down.


See, this is what people are doing wrong, start focusing on raising their APM and THEN trying to get the macro down. This is completely backwards.

You start by trying to get the basics down. Macro, micro, focusing on certain builds and how you can perfect them while still trying to harass and keep your units alive. By doing that your precious APM will increase by itself because you can't do all those things without higher APM.

It doesn't work like "If i can just get my APM to 150, that way the game sense, micro/macro skills should increase by itself"

Seriously people, APM is not something you should ever be concerned about, ever.
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
September 11 2010 06:11 GMT
#20
On September 11 2010 14:11 MICHELLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 12:55 Pfeff wrote:
APM is like DPS in world of warcraft. Higher doesn't always mean better; it's only useful if you are doing it correctly. If you do everything you are supposed to do your APM (or DPS) will shoot up by itself


Are you really comparing APM to DPS?
This dosent make ANY sence at all.

I don't play WoW but I think he means, higher DPS is good, but if you don't fully utilize it won't help you.
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