Hey Trump. I've moved up to diamond since I last posted in here, but I've been having a lot of trouble. This game is good example of the trouble. We both open 1/1/1 into vikings and tanks. I was a little behind him as I got a tech lab on my barracks earlier than I probably should have, but I smelled an opening for a reaper scout/harrass. He gets ahead of me in tank count, but I'm ahead in vikings, so I start to expand, but never am able to get my natural secured. I tried massing up a bunch of marauders to bust through, but he pretty much contains me the entire game. I pulled a drop and did lots of little cutesy things, but could never really establish myself until he rolled over me when I tried to get down my ramp.
Almost 50 minute TvZ, I went for bio+tanks, he went some roaches, into ultra/ling/muta, later adding in broodlords. I feel like I got a really good advantage when I took out his nat, his hive, and later his ultra den and greater spire, but I still ended up losing in the end
I think my macro was just really bad, and probably poor desicion making (though I'm not sure exactly where) I think i fucked up my micro too but not sure exactly where and how big. I think I just didnt protect my expos enough towards the end, and let him get way too much of a necon, to the point where he would lose a battle and be right back to 200/200.
This is a 28 Min TvT match that i just recently played. I went for a Marine/Marauder build with a slightly quick expansion and he goes fast tech to banshees with Tank/Vikings.
The main issue im having with this is that at 14:16 what would you have done from there if you were in my position? I planned on Using a fast expansion to support my Marine/Marauder/1 Raven and a few dropships build along with upgrades and techs. But at 14:16 when i got thrown off my game and didnt know where to go from there...
I am a Platinum league rank 1, by like 400 points over rank 2, My opponent was a rank 3 diamond Terran. Also, I seem to win against diamond players ~66% of the time, though the system may not like me and not want to promote me. 48 minute game. We both open up with a banshee harass, though my build is kinda bleh (still working on it) He gets the better I would say out of the harass, I then proceed to go MMM while he goes tank viking and I control the xel naga tower and out macro him, though with such a far lead over him, I get a sloppy win.
I'd like to know what I could have done better, I think it was because of my lack of scouting I didn't notice him going BCs when he makes his first push and in knowing that, I would have made more vikings to counter them.
I'm Rank 84 Plat, he was around rank 18 Diamond (or 800 Diamond based on points)
The game started with him doing a really early gateway aggression against me, that I managed to hold off clumsily after I delayed my first raxx because his probe stepped in the way of the building placement. I lost a lot of SCVs to his zealots early on, but managed to defend and pushed him back and contained him followed by me getting an expo. He warp prism dropped me and sniped my main with DTs, but I managed to win the game in the end.
I'd like some commentary on what I did well and what I did bad, as watching through the replay I could notice a lot of things myself, but it'd be nice to have another persons opinion. I felt like my macro especially was panicked and all over the place because of his aggressions and drops up until after the drop which pissed me off and made me go into macro beast mode
Rank 1 (1000+point) Diamond Terran getting absolutely destroyed by a Gold players roach + ling rush. Several of my friends and I have been trying to theorycraft some ways to stop this on blistering sands and are failing miserably, was hoping you could comment in.
I know I had several "small" problems in this match (as I do in all, I am by no means a flawless player), but the degree to which I was owned is so significant that I cannot seem to find a way to counter this.
Rank 56 Platinum Terran. My strategy was varied throughout this whole game. This is a result of the early scouting then playing defensively. The opposing player was doing a strict drop/banshee (cloaked harass).
I know one major problem was that I played almost TOO defensively. I couldn't keep the pressure off me until he slowed down. I also need to work on scv build, base management and macro'ing. I'd appreciate if you could somehow steer me to how I could have pushed back against him early and turned the tides.
I did win this, but I think I should have lost. He had the upper hand.
I got my ass kicked in this Diamond 1v1 game. I scouted the void rays, and somehow ended up getting no AA and then his gateway army just rolled over mine. Don't know what I did wrong, but this was part of a losing streak and I felt this one I was completely confused about losing.
This is a Gold League 1v1 TvT on Scrap Station. I was using a 1-1-1 Tank/Vikings Build. I seemed to have some control and had better macro early on but failed attempts to hold pressure on the opponent turned my expansions on me and while i was still ahead in terms of just pure army strength it seems poor micro and lack of knowledge on how to move my armies properly just let me get crushed and lose the match.. Looking for any tips on how to play this build more effectively as it is helping my APM and is very strong in Terran mirrors. I think I can easily start winning a lot with a few improvements! I know you don't prefer sub platinum games but I think this is a pretty decent game that you might find interesting!
These are the games from page 17 (long overdue - had them uploaded but didn't post them).
On August 05 2010 23:51 TerraRyzing wrote: Hey Trump,
ive been following your stream/replay analysis for quite a while now and i am finally submitting a replay myself. keep up the good work, i think it really helps people alot! thank you!
My replay is TvZ with both players being platinum level. to be honest i'm not quite sure if I belong to platinum since sc2 is my first rts ever and i am just playing since the second beta phase. but bnet put me there after 5-0 in placement (3-rax rock!)and for about 40 games now I retain platin with about 50/50 win/loss so I think it might be ok.
The TvZ: I'm playing your "patented" rax/fax/rax Marauder/Hellion opening (which I'm having great success with, btw). My opponent succesfully baneling-busts my wall (2 depots unfortunately) but I am able to hold the attack off, without suffering too much economical damage. I quickly counter-attack, thinking he played all-in and i could win it right here. I fail, he goes muta, I try to go thor (feeling somewhat helpless at this point) and as soon as I manage to set me up against muta he steamrolls me with baneling/speedling. i'm quite curious what you think about this game and how I could have won. (which I think I should have, honestly) I also want to know what you think about my expansion placement.
greetings from germany TR
On August 06 2010 17:48 morx wrote:
Diamond v Diamond
This is my buildorder against protoss : 10 sup, 12 rax, 13 ref(alltho I made 14 this game cus of distractions) 15 orb, at 20 or so ghost aca, and after that It's just an impuls, in other words if my first push fails im pretty much screwed as you can see in this game, I do want to note that my micro was HORRIBLE at my first push I could've easily won that battle but instead we traded armies and he got the best of it, there was alot of flaws in my game but the biggest thing that made me loose imo was that first attack, if I had microed it better the outcome of the game would have been so much different I think. Most of the times my first push works great and gives me the win but when it goes shit like this I need a backup plan.
What can I do if my first attack fails because shit happens and I need a backup plan, like "if my first push doesn't hurt him bad I'll transition 2 X" etc also I would appreciate it if you could give me suggestions to do differently in my build, generally just as much help as you can think of to give me.
Anyways I think thats all I wanted to say I've been to your stream everyday the last couple of days and Hope that I will be there when you cast my replay!
On August 05 2010 15:50 BoxerGen wrote:
Ranked #6 Diamond League
I went Mass marines with stimpack and Helions, and my opponent went Mass Zerglings and Hydras. I pushed as fast as i felt comfortable doing so, because I really didn't want to go into dealing with Muta's.
Well... I won, but not outstandingly so. This was my first Diamond League game so I would extremely appreciate you critiquing my game play so I can improve and win more games.
On August 05 2010 11:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I'm in the diamond league, ranked 34 or so after this win I believe. I play random, but have been considering playing Terran. I have absolutely no idea how I managed to pull this off, and if it was just a fluke or if I should continue this play style if I decide to play Terran full time.
I scout a dual gateway at the start and realize he's zealot rushing me. I was intending to do a 3 racks stim push with marines and marauders so I try to throw up a bunker to help me fend it off. My micro is pretty sloppy, but I survive. I know I'm not too far behind at this point considering I have mules and he's been chronoboosting zealots all game.
From here I pretty much hole up. Scan him as often as I feel safe as I want to mule. I tried to counter everything he did, but I had no real clue how to win. Ended up massing BCs for the win, which I thought was pretty silly.
EDIT: After reviewing this today I just realized how long this is and if you want to skip it instead of wasting your evening I'll understand completely. 75 minute game is pretty ridiculous ^_^
On August 05 2010 10:22 Phyxx wrote:
Low ranked diamond player (I'm Phyxx)
I actually did win this game, but I need some help to figure the later stages out in a classic tank/viking battle.
I opened up with a marine/hellion push with some success, and ended up with the viking advantage. However, I failed hard to exploit it. It seemed like he could spam scans, and by that force me to stay out of range with my tanks. Later on he even forced me to pull my vikings back by adding thors and turrents, and at that point I actually felt like I was losing, even though I had air control and a 200/200 army.
What could/should I have done to use my viking advantage properly? Should I have translated into something else, like BC, mass Marauders or Thors?
And finally a big thanks for sharing so much with the community, we love you!
On August 05 2010 09:39 infinity21 wrote:
I'm about 400-450 diamond (445 atm) and he was in plat league with a good record.
I tried to do a weird hellion marine push since the distance is close but I see 2 rax marauders so I naturally think it's a bust and react defensively. He then casually takes his backdoor expansion and I'm forced to play catchup all game. How would you have reacted in this situation? Banshees crossed my mind but I thought if I tried to get them, I'd probably be overrun by stimmed marauders before I get even one out. Coupled with a bad starting location (super easy for him to drop marauders then go straight to my main ramp). After I realized I was behind, I tried to take a hidden expo which stays up for a bit but gets scouted. Thankfully he moved his entire army over which prompted me to do a final counter attack at his main which got repelled due to the short distance of the center area.
edit: On what I think I did wrong, I have no idea lol. My starting build was wonky but I think I played decently after I scouted his 2 rax marauder. I want to say it was a build order loss due to the map & starting positions but I wanted to hear your thoughts on it.
Also, do you mind if I ask you a bunch of general questions instead of asking for replays? I think having a little Q & A with you will help out my game a lot. Thanks
As doing replays from a month old (yes it has gotten that backlogged) would not be very useful, I am going to start this again clean slate style.
I've updated the front page. For time reasons, I will only cover diamond level games now. Those of lower leagues should learn from my analysis of these diamond players as well. Perhaps if someone could help in 'indexing' these "types" of replays (TvT, TvZ, TvP) and then "style / style against" we could have a good library going.
If you have posted your replay previous to this post, you should re-post it if you're still interested in getting that specific replay analyzed. (But again, only covering diamond level games now)
I figured I'd post this, I played Huk in the 3rd round of a tournament earlier and it started beautifully, my initial plan was to play 112, but played scared almost the entire game, dropped a second rax because I was afraid of Huk's normally aggressive play, pushing back the Banshee timing push until after he got HT's out(pushing before is the entire point of the build). Hellion drop went amazingly well and because I screwed my build up I couldn't take advantage of it. Finally, near the end I felt the need to do something, so I set up a 3 medivac drop to pressure him some, but did it without any map awareness at all and it was right when he was pushing. If I had better map awareness I could have likely defended that and continued to transition into Bio + upgrades and abuse the mobility to keep him on his heels.
I've analyzed the hell out of this game myself, but am looking for your take on it, this is my second game against a known player and one that I probably could have won with better play.
At the time of this posting, I am ranked 90 in Diamond.
I go for a Hellion FE, and my opponent goes for a baneling bust, which i do hold off. He then transistions into Broodlords, and I hold that off with Vikings, and then counter his main, which I kill. After macroing some more units, I destroy his new main for the win.
After watching this replay, I can see that that my macro was really bad. I had thousands of minerals stocked up for a huge part of the game. Also my failure to scout the Broodlords almost cost me the game.
Im currently a 700pt Diamond Terran Player, my opp AirMax is a 1000pt Diamond Terran Player. My strategy was a basic 1/1/1 Tank/Viking build while he also went 1/1/1 but made early Marauders, Hellions and Medivacs. While i pushed into his base at around 7 minutes he dropped me with 3 Hellions. My reaction to the drop was really slow, but it was still pretty even.
Following that he dropped my main while attacking my expansion. After that i had a huge gas deficit for a while because i forgot to put workers back on gas. At about 24 min i win the ground fight at the Xel'naga watchtower but he had a ton of vikings left and i didnt have anti air. From there i wasnt sure what to do. I decided to attack his gold expo with a PF, which was probably wrong. Had to retreat after taking some siege fire. At this time i was around 30 Supply ahead, but also couldnt directly attack his Tanks while they were near the PF.
So needless to say he caught up by expanding like crazy(which i didnt know at the time, bad scouting). At 31 minutes i decide to attack his SE expansion to force his tanks to come to me so i could engage him out of position. That worked allowing me to kill a few of his tanks, but my following attack on his PF didnt turn out well. I was pretty behind after that and got rolled over in the end.
What i think made me lose in the end was not utilising my advantage the correct way i had in various stages of the game. So what id like to know is what could i have done differently? Also i like to play aggressive in TvT but maybe being more defensive is better?
I went 3 rax mm, with medics and vikings later against zealot/stalker/sentry/colossus/ht, so a common strategy
I think I sucked with ghosts and using emps, storm dodging, and my macro sucked. Also, I know that I got 3 tech labs, when i should have gotten 2 tech labs and 1 reactor, and I prob only needed 1 refinery.
went for a 2rax and factory MMH w/ blue flame push. first push i think i could have microd my MM better and not taken so much damage from the lings. my rax and fac sit idle during our first skirmish. mid/late game it seems that he is always a step ahead and way ahead on macro. thanks. also wondering about the timing on my expansion
Hey Trump Do you think you could upload the replays of earlier today of TvZ and TvT where you went full out marines? I want to try it out and study it a little better. Thank you
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