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admoore9
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1 Post
August 09 2010 21:36 GMT
#361
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Rank 16 Gold terran Vs Gold protoss.

My strategy was a 3 racks mm rush build. His was a 2 gate into colossus and turtle in his base with cannons,

I was slow on some of my expansions and wasn't always making scvs. I also don't think I upgraded soon enough.

underjeep
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 06:18:04
August 09 2010 22:40 GMT
#362
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Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 23:21:25
August 09 2010 22:53 GMT
#363
How come so many posters that request replay analysis have under 5 posts, or simply made an account just to post one replay? That kind of bothers me. I had a replay from back when I was gold, but I edited it out of my post because Trump said plat/diamond only from this point on, otherwise I would've had it

and on that note, could you review my rep, Trump? TvP in Platinum on Metalopolis. I didn't bother scouting him, but I made a blind counter to void rays and it worked partially. I don't think I responded to this the right way, because he took out my main CC and then I was basically blundering and making whatever at that point. How should I have responded to this better?

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Jaedong plz
Counterfeiter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States26 Posts
August 10 2010 00:06 GMT
#364
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=137321

ranked 5 in Platinum with a little under 400 points
replay is a 24 min terran vs zerg match. I started with a 1rax 2 factory build going for helions and their flame upgrade. tried to harrass but was attacked but failed. i then pumped out siege tanks and thors and a couple helions. I ended up winning but....
I think i should have lost that game. In the first attack i just barely won the battle against his hydras roaches yet stayed with my thors siege tanks even though they were destroyed in first battle. I think i might've lost more minerals than him in that battle. If he stayed hydra roach i think i definetly would have lost. On my macro though... I had a LOT of minerals but didnt know what to do with it so i just let it stack up reaching up to over 3000. Should i have made another factory/barracks and pumped out marines/helions with that extra money just to use it? I probably should have but.... I could use work on TvZ in general. So any TvZ tips would help thanks.
Killerbot
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
August 10 2010 03:56 GMT
#365
Just wanted to thank you Trump, your 3 rax build took me from low level Silver into Gold in a day. I watched you trying to teach Trauma the build today and I'm going to start giving that a try tomorrow.

Anyway just wanted to say thanks, and keep up the good work, your tips and watching you and Debo play has taught me a lot about Terran, because I started as a toss player.

I'll send along a replay when I have one deserving of your advice/critique.
Lurkerkiller
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 03:30:35
August 10 2010 20:17 GMT
#366
EDIT: Trump, I've completely changed my TvT build, so it is no longer anything like the one I wanted you to watch. So if you'd like, you can skip right over this post. Though if you could, I'd like you to review this replay and see if there's anything I could do better, or could have won earlier.

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Rank 1/2 Plat player now, beating diamonds about 65% of the time. He was a diamond rank 21 or around there, hes actually in your division if I remember correctly.
I won this game, by a bit at the end, though I'd like to know where I could have done a bit better incase I did do something wrong.
Tiorda
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:50:36
August 10 2010 21:36 GMT
#367
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Mid-High Plat level player. Using the three Rax build I commonly see you teaching your clients via your stream.

I poached four hatcheries and still got outmacroed, I definitely think that's where I fell behind and not getting an expo fast enough.
ReDTerraN
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 10:20:46
August 10 2010 21:48 GMT
#368
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32ish in diamond

im an low/mid diamond player from sweden, played this game while playing in open cup#3. although I won the game i did very poor in general. and thats probably one of the reasons I wanted to show you this game, since if played good there would be no point of reviewing it? right? :D

this is how the game was played out.
I went 4 rax skipping gas(still experimenting),
later --> M/M/M ball.
he went baneling bust opening to spire.
later --> mass roach/hydra/infestor/broodlords.
My decision making was poor and I went in some sort of a afk mode after a while, it would be gladly apreciated if you gave me a word of advice when it comes to late game TvZ! thanks!
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mrlie3
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 04:34:33
August 11 2010 04:31 GMT
#369
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/54376-1v1-terran-protoss-blistering-sands#rd:undefined;wysiwyg

500+ Diamond

Hey Trump I think I need help on TvP from you. I can't seem to win against HT in mid-late game. I tried to use Ghost but my EMP can't keep up with constant summoning of HT ready to storm my troops. If I tried to snipe HTs with MM, while succeeding their job, they get demolished by Zealots. I hope you can give me some insight!

P.S. Maybe we can do some TvT practice matches? =) Add me on Crimson.899 if you're interested.
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Delleh
Profile Joined July 2010
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 04:56:13
August 11 2010 04:54 GMT
#370
I am not diamond but I have a question for fellow terran players. I started playing Starcraft 2 on August 1st, with no RTS experience. I have used the 3 rax build to become a gold ranked 10 and im happy with my progress. However, i am finding more and more that the build is not working as well against my opponents now. What build should I learn now? I want to continue my progress!
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
August 11 2010 13:15 GMT
#371
On August 11 2010 13:54 Delleh wrote:
I am not diamond but I have a question for fellow terran players. I started playing Starcraft 2 on August 1st, with no RTS experience. I have used the 3 rax build to become a gold ranked 10 and im happy with my progress. However, i am finding more and more that the build is not working as well against my opponents now. What build should I learn now? I want to continue my progress!

The 3 rax build is a solid build. There's nothing wrong with sticking to it. It's not the problem. The problem is that you need to improve other areas of your play.

There are going to be several things that always need improvement. Here's a basic list, and what you can do to improve:

Micromanagement - upgrade concussive shells , and time your attack for when the upgrade finishes. Learn to kite your marauders - they're much more effective this way. Also, make sure the marauders are infront of the marines - they're tougher, and the marines dps is actually higher for the cost, so keeping them alive longer is actually beneficial in the long run. Little things like getting a better concave during a battle, target firing key enemy units/structures, or splitting your units up into 2 groups, controlling both groups well, and moving them around independently can give you an edge that you wouldn't have otherwise. Extend this line of thinking to all of the units under your control.

Macromanagement - this is all about the execution of your build. The better you do it, the quicker your attack will come. Have you ever lost a game, and thought "crap, if that bunker finished 2 seconds later, I would have won"? What if I told you that you could execute your build better, and get the same attack 10+ seconds earlier? Wouldn't that mean you would win easily against the same opponent? Because that is actually the truth (if you're in Gold). You need to play enough that your build becomes second-nature to you, almost muscle memory. This will allow you to focus on other things.

Multitasking - this is tricky to improve. Sometimes games will push you to the brink. I lost a ZvT game of BW like that recently. Ultimately, the game can come down to who can keep track of more things. You need to be able to think of exactly what you are going to do where, and do it as quick as possible, before moving on to the next thing. It is definitely the most difficult thing about a RTS game. However, this is exactly why people play RTS games - it's a game of skill between you and someone else. You're just going to have to play more, and try to do everything as fast as possible, to give you more time to do more things.

Scouting - this is a very important part of a RTS game. Keeping your SCV in his base for an extra few seconds can allow you to see him put that roach warren down in the corner of his creep, or allow you to see that he took his 2nd gas fast, telling you that he is going for some kind of tech. Even if you see nothing against a Protoss, knowing his pylon placement can allow you to scan anywhere he could put tech buildings, letting you know exactly what he is doing, even though he's trying to trick you. Also, always be wary for hidden expansions, especially gold expansions.

Decision making - basically, play smart. Don't play dumb. By having more information from scouting, and having a solid build order down to muscle memory, solid micromangement to give you an edge in battle, and solid macromangement to give you a lot of stuff to work with, it will allow you to adapt to whatever you see. Do you see your opponent going for high templar? Add a ghost academy and get some ghosts for EMP to counter him. Do you see him putting crazy amounts of spine crawlers down at his nat? Double expand yourself, and contain him with your army. Do you see him go for Collossi? Put down a factory, then a starport, and then put the starport on the reactor for the barracks, and transition into a mainly marauder/viking/medivac army. Don't plan on killing anyone with your initial attack..... Plan on using it to cause some damage, and outright kill him if he gets to greedy, but intend on getting yourself onto a stable footing in the midgame by expanding as you push out. And, don't throw any games away. Look at the replay of my game that Trump cast..... I was low diamond/high plat equivalent in the last stretch of the beta (I let my bro play 2v2 on my account, he decided to do my 1v1 placement for me, landing me in silver ). And I probably only had 40 apm in that replay..... Yea. Dumb..... Don't do the same, or similar, and you should be fine.....

Personally, I've been opening 10 rax 10 depot 12 OC into a 1/1/1 build, with an expansion going down sometime after I've been pumping from all 3 structures for a while (depending on what I see from my scan during the building of my starport, and other scouting info I've gotten, and whether or not I abandoned the plan for an early rush/banshees against a fast expand build, which is essentially the plan anyways). I'll usually push out between 120-140 supply, mainly to expand again (double expanding if possible), and then going for a killing push when I get close to 200, or at least containing, taking more expansions, and making a lot of production facilities so I can make my army again asap. I've been doing this against all 3 races, because it is very versatile. And I have the timings down pretty well. But I can still see a lot of areas where I could improve, even simple things revolving around my build order (I typically get supply blocked when my starport is going down in the late 20 supply whenever I'm building hellions, and I'm sure it's because I have to cut my supply close to get my starport down on time, but I've seen replays of higher level players who didn't have that problem so I know it's because I'm short 40 or so minerals at that point, meaning my execution needs improvement). Bigger things like my micro (in general) always need improvement.

I stuck with that build because it suits my style of play. I like to play a reactive game, and my late-game play is generally better than my early/midgame play, so I want something that will allow me to get there. I also like to try crazy things (I've massed thors against someone going for immortals, simply to see how well/poor they would do, for instance), and it doesn't take much to adapt my opening into just about anything (try building no scvs after a 10 rax 10 depot 12 OC and building 4 more rax in total, for a 5 rax marine all-in, it's very powerful, and the early marine from the early rax is great for killing their scout, preventing them from knowing what you are doing, if you are smart about it).

However, my number 1 piece of advice for someone new to StarCraft is this: Have fun. Seriously, play to enjoy the game. Don't worry at all about trying to crack the top 8 in Diamond. Play to have fun. And, once you do get good at it, it can be pretty fun to pwn some noobs.
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NoxJD
Profile Joined August 2010
2 Posts
August 12 2010 08:57 GMT
#372
Pretty much beat a protoss trying some lame stuff

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bronze player soon to be diamond, is there anything to counter this instead of doing what I did? even though I won..
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
August 12 2010 09:20 GMT
#373
On August 12 2010 17:57 NoxJD wrote:
Pretty much beat a protoss trying some lame stuff

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bronze player soon to be diamond, is there anything to counter this instead of doing what I did? even though I won..
here's what you do when you catch it as early as you did. pull four SCVs and kill the pylon, while continuing to build the barracks, then kill the probe with a marine. don't just sit there and let everything complete.
Trump
Profile Joined April 2010
United States350 Posts
August 12 2010 18:18 GMT
#374
I'll be looking at the next 10 of when-I-left-off replays of platinum/diamond players starting Friday. (And I would expect to be doing this every week consistently.)

Think I've got a solid plan of eventually uploading the ones I commentate on youtube too.
Friendship is Magic! <3
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
August 12 2010 19:06 GMT
#375
Hey Trump its RK (the druid you never remember lol)

I got a question for TvT
If your opponent has air control and you have ground control, but he has enough tanks in his bases to generally stop you from attacking, what should you do? When I get into this position I try to catch up in vikings, but it never really works, or one time i managed to catch up after keeping him to two bases while I was at 4, and then he rolled me with a tank/thor push since I had too damn many vikings. Then if I can't catch up in vikings he rolls me with banshees and/or battlecruisers.

I don't get TvT
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trenakar
Profile Joined July 2010
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 23:47:39
August 12 2010 23:26 GMT
#376
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This game i did a bio build went to see if i could push out about 50-60 food saw immortals pulled back built some ghosts got my expansion and pushed out when i felt ready. My macro slips a little bit towards the end and i should have expanded again when i went to push out, a few supply blocks of course.

What i think i could work on is better at build scv's more continuously, and macro a bit better towards later game.

diamond game but i don't feel good enough to be there
WaRRioR2050
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2 Posts
August 13 2010 00:07 GMT
#377
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Me (Striferz) vs another Terran. I went a 1/1/1 vs his 3 Rax. Once I saw he was going marauder heavy I switched up to some banshees, but then get rid of air all together and go marine/tank to deal with his viking/banshee/tank/marine/marauder mix. There was a few instances were I would of lost if he would of pushed in. I only win because he doesn't expand.

I don't think I scouted well enough. I didn't even notice that he was getting banshees or vikings. My macro I think was also terrible because it seemed he was getting outnumbering me even when I was at 3 base and he was at 2. I also got supply blocked for a longggg time at a few points.

I am a 80ish ranked Diamond and he is a mid platinum (I think).
TenSafeFrogs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States54 Posts
August 13 2010 04:33 GMT
#378
On August 13 2010 04:06 blagoonga123 wrote:
Hey Trump its RK (the druid you never remember lol)

I got a question for TvT
If your opponent has air control and you have ground control, but he has enough tanks in his bases to generally stop you from attacking, what should you do? When I get into this position I try to catch up in vikings, but it never really works, or one time i managed to catch up after keeping him to two bases while I was at 4, and then he rolled me with a tank/thor push since I had too damn many vikings. Then if I can't catch up in vikings he rolls me with banshees and/or battlecruisers.

I don't get TvT


I think you answered your own question: If he's way ahead in vikings, maybe try some thors? (as you say, if you DO get more vikings, he rolls you w/ tanks/thors, so why wouldn't that work against him?
Maddcap
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore2 Posts
August 13 2010 04:43 GMT
#379
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36ish diamond

Me (Maddcap) VS another Terran. It was a slugfest. He went Vikings and Tanks. While I went Thors and Tanks. I got contained and can't push out. He had air control.

I did not play aggressive enough.

It's a 1 hour 16mins~ game.
silver_fox
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada243 Posts
August 13 2010 18:04 GMT
#380
hi trump, can you post your replay against RSVP (toss player) from yesterday? along with the terran game after? thanks!
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